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Shovel Handle Carbine and Hi-Point Pistol with Brace
AmmoLand ^ | January 30, 2025 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 02/07/2025 4:20:49 AM PST by marktwain

At the 2025 Shot Show, this correspondent stopped at the MKS Supply booth, attracted by the unconventional brace on the Hi-Point pistol, shown above. The display model was made up for the show. It may have been inspired by the man who made a workable AK47 receiver from a shovel with a D handle.

The D handle does not appear to be from an actual shovel.  The attachments to the cylinder appear to be less sturdy than those on common D handles. Hi-Point pistols and carbines are straight blowback semi-automatics. The pistols shown below were all chambered for the ubiquitous 9x19mm caliber. They have a shorter barrel than the carbine, which has a 16.5-17.5-inch barrel. These barrels appear to be about 12-14 inches, although this correspondent did not measure them.

The middle pistol in the camouflage pattern has a traditional pistol brace. The lowest pistol does not have a brace but has an attachment point to add one if desired.

At the KYGUNCO site, Hi-Point pistols cost about $200, and carbines with a 16.5 to 17.5-inch barrel cost about $318  –  $358 in 9×19 mm, the most common caliber. None of the pistols shown above were seen on the Hi-Point website. The pistols and carbines are also offered in .30S, .380, .40, .45, and 10mm calibers.

In this correspondent’s years as an instructor, a fair number of students brought Hi-Point pistols to the class. They worked. The first essential for a defensive firearm is that it go bang when it is supposed to. The Hi-Point pistols seemed top-heavy. The ergonomics did not equal a Glock, a 1911A1, or a Browning Hi-Power. But… they worked. They went bang when called upon to do so. They are inexpensive and have a lifetime warranty.

The carbines also work.


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The Hi-Point pistols with 12-14 inch barrels were shown with and without pistol braces at the 2025 shot show.

The do not appear to be available at this writing.

1 posted on 02/07/2025 4:20:49 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

If I’m reduced to buying a Hi-Point anything, I’ll just throw rocks instead.


2 posted on 02/07/2025 4:24:54 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: BlackbirdSST

.....hmmmmmm.....way back in the early 2000s, the second handgun I ever bought was a Hi-Point in .40 S&W, a gun that I still have....ugly as a mud fence but it has always gone “BANG” when I pull the trigger....maybe not so much of a “carry” gun, but still, at least for me, a neat gun to shoot.....


3 posted on 02/07/2025 4:39:30 AM PST by TokarevM57
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To: TokarevM57
.....hmmmmmm.....way back in the early 2000s, the second handgun I ever bought was a Hi-Point in .40 S&W, a gun that I still have....ugly as a mud fence but it has always gone “BANG” when I pull the trigger....maybe not so much of a “carry” gun, but still, at least for me, a neat gun to shoot.....

To each his own, I mean who doesn't like it when the Bang Switch works. I tend to hit what I shoot at so the one Hi-Point that I fired (9mm) was a rattle trap that I thought was going to fly apart in my hands and after 6 rounds I gave up on it. I can drive tacks with my old Ruger P89. She is still tight after all these years.

4 posted on 02/07/2025 5:01:42 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: marktwain

Shovel?

Well, we know of at least one segment of society that won’t buy one.............


5 posted on 02/07/2025 5:11:00 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: BlackbirdSST

.....”I’ll just throw rocks instead.”

That’s why my backup is a sling.


6 posted on 02/07/2025 5:11:37 AM PST by LastDayz (A Blunt and Brazen Texan. I Will Not Be Assimilated.)
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To: BlackbirdSST
I have a Hi-Point Carbine in 45 ACP for home defense.

To be sure it has it's shortcomings...none of which are relevant for home defense.
The primary requirement is that it needs to go "BANG!" every time I pull the trigger, which it does. And with every type of ammo I've tried. From very mild target loads to +P loads (which it is rated for)
It doesn't need any kind of special maintenance. Hell, it doesn't need any maintenance, period.
I doubt that there is another PCC at any price that is as reliable.
7 posted on 02/07/2025 6:41:25 AM PST by Pythion.net
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To: BlackbirdSST

I bought a hi-point carbine for $100 years ago on a lark. Surprisingly it’s been an accurate and decent rifle it’s just ugly as the bottom of your foot.


8 posted on 02/07/2025 7:17:21 AM PST by sarge83
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To: BlackbirdSST

Ditto! Hi Point and Mad Dog 20-20. Two things I’m never buying.


9 posted on 02/07/2025 7:26:26 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Ditto! Hi Point and Mad Dog 20-20. Two things I’m never buying.

LOL!

10 posted on 02/07/2025 8:33:01 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: sarge83

I have a laser-sighted Hi-Point 9mm carbine bought back in 1999 just to fill a small space in the gun room...

Now, at 91.3, treat as an old man’s pistol substitute...


11 posted on 02/07/2025 9:53:29 AM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is rabble-rusing Sam Adams now that we need him? Is his name Trump, now?)
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To: SuperLuminal

Shorter than most pistol caliber carbines. Easy to handle, easy to shoot, maneuverable. (magazine in the pistol grip)

10 rd magazines.

I view the carbines more favorably than the pistols.

If they come out with a 12 inch barreled version with a pistol brace, even better. Four inches shorter, and a bit lighter.


12 posted on 02/07/2025 1:48:37 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Red Badger

Yet attached to a HiPoint - the conundrum that presents is fascinating.


13 posted on 02/07/2025 3:10:08 PM PST by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: marktwain
If you want to swap out the trigger:

https://thingmeister.com/collections/hipoint-upgrades/products/hipoint-triggers

14 posted on 02/08/2025 2:46:04 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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