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Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy and the Silicon Valley Tech Millionaire Group Continue Lambasting Americans While Advocating for Expanded Foreign Worker Visas
The Last Refuge ^ | December 26, 2024 | Sundance

Posted on 12/27/2024 10:05:09 AM PST by SoConPubbie

Six months ago, I was asked my opinion of the Silicon Valley alignment with MAGA. I said at the time I thought it would last around 18 months and finally climax with a large fracture in the political movement around 2026. I had no idea at the time, the group of technocrats would begin publicly advocating for replacing American workers before Trump took office.

For the past several days I have watched Vivek Ramaswamy, David Sacks, Elon Musk and his big tech influencers debating with their followers about the importance for them to continue expanding H-1b visas for foreign tech workers. It is stunning to see this crew double, triple and quadruple down on advocacy, while defining American workers as inadequate for their Silicon Valley needs.

Alas, it is what it is. Within the argument Musk, Ramaswamy, Sacks and group have presented multiple justifications for their foreign worker assistance programs, while advocating for expanded immigration support therein.

Within the tone of their argument, they essentially say the American worker is (1) not intellectual enough; (2) doesn’t have the right work ethic; and the latest point of justification is that (3) American culture is to blame for their need to import foreign workers.

As Vivek Ramaswamy recently said, “Our American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long (at least since the 90s and likely longer). That doesn’t start in college, it starts YOUNG.” Thus, as the narrative is sold, American workers need to be replaced with more culturally appropriate Indian tech workers.

When the Indian-American starts saying Indian culture is more adequate at creating workers for the American tech industry, he loses me completely.

If the Indian culture is the holy grail breeding ground for software engineers, then why isn’t New Delhi replacing Silicon Valley?

Considering that factually the Indian culture is entirely based on a caste system, the argument is even more absurd.

What we need are training and recruitment centers for American students. However, the larger issue within the billionaire tech team advocacy is an issue of self-interest.

What we see in the justifications and arguments of the Ramaswamy, Musk and Sacks group is a very specific point of immigration policy for their subset within a singular sector of the American economy. Perhaps this would not be such a big issue, if these points of advocacy were coming from outside government interest groups. However, with this tech team going into the administration, the influence becomes something a little bigger.

The part the Tech Group do not understand is the core of the American DNA, “Liberty“…

It is only from the position of liberty, intellectualism actualized in freedom form, that the working culture of America, the ingenuity part, can be understood.

If you attempt to quantify Americanism with math and algorithms, the translated outcome always fails.

Dear Vivek Ramaswamy, my counter take…

Several years ago, Florida Power and Light won the prestigious international Edward Demming Award for excellence in multi-platform engineering, efficiency superiority and total quality in the process of energy management.

However, the scruffy rednecks did not blow every PhD intellectual out of the water with slide rules, CAD programs, articulated and quantified quality improvement processes and engineering acumen. They did it with hard hats and dirty fingernails.

Because they lost the award, the jaw-agape Japanese spent 6 months visiting and reviewing FPL and later published a 1,000-page study essentially saying FPL “wasn’t really good, they were just lucky.”

You see, the reviewers couldn’t actually quantify the reason why the Florida-based energy company was so successful. In response the FPL field leadership laughed, took out magic markers and wrote on the back of their hard hats: “WE’RE NOT GOOD, WE’RE RUCKY.”

A few years later, every single Kuwaiti oil field was blown up by Saddam Hussein. Global analysts and think-tanks proclaimed it would take 5 years to cap them all off and restart the Kuwait oil pumping industry. Well, the Kuwaiti’s and Saudi’s called Texans, who had them all capped and back in working order in 6 months.

We are a nation that knows how to get shit done.

A few more years pass, and the Northern Chile mine workers were trapped two miles underground. The eyes of the world began to tear as the word spread. Most began to whisper no one could save them. Who did they call for help? A bunch of hick miners from USA coal country who went down there, worked on the fly, engineered the rescue equipment on site, and saved every one of them.

Yup, that’s our America. Ingenuity born from freedom.

Across the pond a half-breed Islamic whack job, armed with an AK-47 and a goal to meet his virgins, began opening fire on a train in France. The scruffneck Americans on board didn’t run to the nearest safe room and hide themselves amid baguettes and brie. They said, “let’s go”, and beat the stuffing out of that little nut with a death wish.

Legion d’Honneur or not, that’s us. WE ARE AMERICANS! That’s just how we roll.

In fact, Lady Liberty can stroll along the Champs-Elysées with a swagger befitting Mae West because without her arrival, they’d be speaking German in the Louvre. Yet, for the better part of the past decade, a group of intellectual leftists have been teaching our children that it’s better to be sitting around a campfire eating sustainable algae cakes and picking parasites off each other; because ‘save the planet’, or something similarly minded. It would appear, they hate the outcomes and inequities from freedom.

Warmest regards,

Americans First!

My BEST advice to @elonmusk @VivekGRamaswamy @DavidSacks and the Silicon Valley tech elites, is to keep talking. Just keep telling Americans how terrible they are and how they need to be replaced. Great Job.

Every time you guys open your typeset in public, @LauraLoomer grows a…

— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) December 26, 2024



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To: jroehl

I think you are mainly right. The average software programmer or IT network technician is certainly nothing to place on a pedestal. Like with all technical disciplines, the top end is what I respect.


41 posted on 12/27/2024 10:40:14 AM PST by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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"If the Indian culture is the holy grail breeding ground for software engineers, then why isn’t New Delhi replacing Silicon Valley?"

They did, for what seems a briefer moment than it may have been.

And then MS starting locking down software created with their stolen libraries. "Oops, our entire enterprise architecture locked up overnight." Other American companies found outsourcing wasn't worth the opportunity cost.

Simultaneously, American coders really scaled up, particularly as Gen X came of age, which includes Musk, Bezos, Page, Brin, Dorsey, Wojcicki, Pichai, Nadella ... it's a fairly eye-popping list. They had to hire American, the Indians struggle with Engrish in every form (more so than Asians), and the breakout markets for SaaS were homed in the United States.

Loomer's a Luddite loon, but tech shouldn't get anything more than maybe a small cap raise from 85K to 100K, which would probably extend the cap date from March 25 to April 1 (lofl). What are we now, like 10M total in the US? So raising H1B to 1% of all total tech sector people in the US. OOOOH I'm SKEERED lofl.

Shut it, Laura Doomer. LERN2CODE, you silly bitch.

42 posted on 12/27/2024 10:42:25 AM PST by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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To: jroehl

” Information technology really is not that complicated.”

IT is actually VERY COMPLICATED at the highest levels.

Dummies need not aspire to achieve there.

125 IQ is required to start. 140 to excel.

That said, we have plenty of those right here in the US.

But only fools underestimate what it takes.


43 posted on 12/27/2024 10:43:04 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: SoConPubbie
It is simply a reflection of what has become of our colleges and universities producing a generation of the socially dysfunctional, entitled, and inept. It was the richest people in the world who made them that way, seeking to cash in on investments overseas while asking America's young people to shed their blood protecting corporate "American interests" abroad. Now that overseas is looking sketchy, they want to come home with only the best from abroad and pay them less.

What a deal.

44 posted on 12/27/2024 10:46:20 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: nwrep

If only you weren’t a dummy you could read the recent ones about Apple and from Tucker I posted here as well.


45 posted on 12/27/2024 10:46:32 AM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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To: CodeToad; mbrfl

So why don’t we have an Indian H1B immigration policy for podiatrists or chemical engineers? Because big tech is based on hype.


46 posted on 12/27/2024 10:47:10 AM PST by jroehl (And how we burned in the camps later - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago)
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To: SoConPubbie

Then there’s this:

Laura Loomer points out that Elon Musk has hired non-American citizens for “entry level” roles at Tesla using the database that lists the salaries of H1B visa holders.

https://x.com/ArtCandee/status/1872400801337123221


47 posted on 12/27/2024 10:47:47 AM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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To: SoConPubbie

And this...

The top .0001% eh? Hotel cooks making 20k a year need to be imported????

https://x.com/TheQuartering/status/1872660457070432341


48 posted on 12/27/2024 10:48:49 AM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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To: SoConPubbie

It’s funny how most of our American companies were created by Americans but we’re told Americans are now incapable of running them.


49 posted on 12/27/2024 10:50:32 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: SoConPubbie

And this:

“Dentists too.”

https://x.com/BeeKneeCards/status/1872665790761308316

And this:

Laura Loomer

“Hey

@elonmusk

So you’re telling me that $70k per year entry level jobs are .1% level talent?”

https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1872396020224561279


50 posted on 12/27/2024 10:50:36 AM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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To: SoConPubbie
America wants the best talent on the planet, whaether they were born in America or not.
Its funny, the far left crazies, who sucked in 20 million uneducated no talent illegal masses are now whining because Musk wants to bring in the best engineering talent on the planet for his super advanced companies like SpaceX, Neuralink , XAi etc.
51 posted on 12/27/2024 10:52:10 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SoConPubbie
For a couple of smart guys, they really do not know how to read a room do they?

Nailed it.

52 posted on 12/27/2024 10:53:31 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Terry L Smith
So, no H1-B’s, pay more taxes!!

If that is true, the tax incentive needs to be removed now!
53 posted on 12/27/2024 10:54:36 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Trump has all the right enemies, DeSantis has all the wrong friends.)
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To: SmokingJoe

You might want to take a look at post #47 and what they provided at X.


54 posted on 12/27/2024 10:54:53 AM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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To: House Atreides
This FOREIGN WORKERS business is a weak spot with Trump… sadly it always has been and may well end up destroying his MAGA dreams.

Or so you would have us believe.   Actually it is you that may well end up destroying MAGA if you had your way.

55 posted on 12/27/2024 10:54:58 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: SoConPubbie

Musk knows exactly what he is talking about.
You don’t, given you never created even one multi billion dollar company in your life, let alone 7 like Musk has.


56 posted on 12/27/2024 10:55:40 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: jroehl

“So why don’t we have an Indian H1B immigration policy for podiatrists or chemical engineers?”

There is. In fact, those professions are also underrun with Indians.


57 posted on 12/27/2024 10:55:54 AM PST by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: Mariner

I have 30+ years in tech. At a very high level. I cant get a job because all the tech recruiters are Indians. So I am blocked. This is all about disempowering white American men. Very simple, really.


58 posted on 12/27/2024 10:57:12 AM PST by jroehl (And how we burned in the camps later - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago)
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To: jroehl

There’s a lot more money in big tech than in podiatry. As far as chemical engineering, most industries that employ chemical engineers are what you could describe as mature industries, like energy and oil companies. They make a lot of money, but they’re more stable and less focused on innovation than tech companies are.


59 posted on 12/27/2024 10:57:59 AM PST by mbrfl
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To: House Atreides

If you want things built in America and not enough Americans are educated enough to do it, then you must import the talent needed until enough Americans can be educated to fill the demand.


60 posted on 12/27/2024 10:59:00 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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