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Despite ATF Roadblocks, Nearly 5 Million Suppressors Legally Owned
AmmoLand ^ | December 9, 2024 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 12/18/2024 9:45:10 AM PST by marktwain

The number of legal suppressors in the USA is almost certainly over five million. The National Shooting Sports Federation (NSSF) revealed a Freedom of Information Act request submitted to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), which was finally answered this summer. The total number was 4.86 million at the end of July 2024. From the NSSF:

In a recent Freedom of Information Act request (FOIA), NSSF received from ATF the additional number of silencers from May 2021 to July 2024. An incredible 2,193,123 more suppressors are protecting the hearing of hunters and shooters. That means a whopping 4.86 million silencers and counting are in possession by law-abiding Americans.

The number of tax stamps issued for silencers, also commonly referred to as suppressors, had to be pried out of the ATF with a FOIA. The ATF has gained a reputation for long waits and poor responses to FOIA requests. Before the Biden administration took power, detailed information on all National Firearms Act items was publicly available in an annual report called Firearms Commerce in the United States.  Once the Biden administration took control of the ATF, the annual report was, without notice, discontinued. The ATF would not publish the information. They slowly responded to FOIA requests, which is how the NSSF finally obtained the numbers. The numbers show an accelerating demand for legal silencers, with an average of nearly 60,000 tax stamps being issued each month.

The average does not tell the whole story. Demand has been accelerating. Information shows there were 3.5 million silencers through January 2024. Thus, 1.4 million silencers were added in the six months from January 2024 to the end of July 2024. It is virtually certain there are over 5 million legal silencers in the USA today.


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Silencers should be removed from the National Firearms Act (NFA). They never should have been included. The effective ban has been a national health care disaster.
1 posted on 12/18/2024 9:45:10 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

the NFA and its enforcement should be removed, too


2 posted on 12/18/2024 9:46:08 AM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: marktwain

Actually suppressors should be not only legal but encouraged for the sake of hearing loss.


3 posted on 12/18/2024 9:48:47 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (Accepting a false premise initiates conversational defeat.)
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To: faithhopecharity

Along with the GCA and subsequent infringements.


4 posted on 12/18/2024 9:48:49 AM PST by curious7
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To: marktwain

Agreed...

It seems that a number of @ 5 MILLION.. pretty much moves them from rare obscure things only in spy movies to “COMMON USE”.

I could easily see making these Required use at all ranges and where ever practical.


5 posted on 12/18/2024 9:49:33 AM PST by uranium penguin
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To: marktwain

I’ve had an Advanced Armaments .223/.556 suppressor since 2002, and it’s a fun time on the range. There are many others there, waiting in-line to have a turn at it.


6 posted on 12/18/2024 9:51:50 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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Silencers should be removed from the National Firearms Act (NFA)

The National Firearms Act should be removed from the body of United States law.

7 posted on 12/18/2024 9:52:45 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: marktwain

Apparently the $200 bribe to the gov’t hasn’t been high enough. Can’t believe that’s the only thing that separates me from a felony and jail time over an oil filter screwed on to the end of a barrel.


8 posted on 12/18/2024 9:54:14 AM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: marktwain

If they were removed from the NFA, the cost of one would plummet to less than $100 because they are so simple to manufacture.


9 posted on 12/18/2024 9:58:14 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Before you post a nasty, stop and think: "Would that person slap me if I said it in person?" )
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To: marktwain

Finally got my approval after 3 months. Aklys Defense for my 5.56 AR.
Average time now a days is 4 days with some (a buddy) getting approved in 24 hours.


10 posted on 12/18/2024 10:05:28 AM PST by SavannahWonderer (First do no harm)
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To: marktwain

No such thing as a silencer. Just another stupid law made up from movies. Like “cop killer” bullets. Or Teflon bullets (made for the FIb when they demanded lighter weight pistols).


11 posted on 12/18/2024 10:14:39 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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“The only restriction written into the Second Amendment is a restriction on legislating restrictions” L.Star. ALL legislated gun laws are illegal in the eyes of The Constitution and the Bill of rights. PERIOD! one would surmise that any amount of legal training would be sufficient for the understanding of what “Shall Not be INFRINGED” means, legally and otherwise. but no, liars...oops, I meant Lawyers, will do, say, write or post anything and everything that “proves” that virtually ANY law doesn’t mean what you think it means. 1000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea isn’t even CLOSE to a good start but I’m willing to start there. how about you?


12 posted on 12/18/2024 11:01:31 AM PST by Qwapisking (Q: know the difference between a petulant 6 y.o. and a liberal? A:age. L.Star )
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To: curious7

yes, the “whole shooting match” is unconstitutional garbage


13 posted on 12/18/2024 11:12:02 AM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...

14 posted on 12/18/2024 11:19:23 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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Patent drawings for firearms silencers. The inventors call them "silencers" and have since Hiram Maxim's original patent on them.
15 posted on 12/18/2024 11:24:27 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Organic Panic

I think you’re probably referring to the “KTW” bullets (invented by Kopsch, Turner, and Ward) which had nothing to do with the FBI and everything to do with the inventors’ desire for better penetration of windshields.


16 posted on 12/18/2024 11:28:56 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: marktwain

At $200 bucks per tax stamp, that’s a cool $600 million into the US Treasury.


17 posted on 12/18/2024 11:48:28 AM PST by Fido969
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18 posted on 12/18/2024 12:24:33 PM PST by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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"No such thing as a silencer...."


Hiram Maxim, who invented them, called them "silencers," patented them as "silencers," and marketed them as "silencers."

Copied verbatim from the current version of the ATF Form 4


U.S. Department of Justice
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
Application for Tax Paid Transfer and Registration of Firearm
ATF Form 4 (5320. 4) Revised October 2023

Definitions/Instructions
1. Definitions...

... c. Firearm. The term “firearm” means: (1) a shotgun having a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length; (2) a weapon made from a shotgun if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length; (3) a rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length; (4) a weapon made from a rifle if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length; (5) any other weapon as defined in 26 U.S.C. § 5845(e); (6) a machinegun; (7) a muffler or silencer for any firearm whether or not such firearm is included within this definition; and (8) a destructive device.

And lastly, the paperwork that the tax stamp comes affixed to uses the term "silencer." The term "suppressor" is nowhere on the document that shows lawful payment of the tax and ownership of the device.

The odd part is that very few people who own one get this wrapped around the axle about what they're called.

19 posted on 12/18/2024 12:46:50 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: Paal Gulli

You’re still gonna hear some part of the firearm. The firing pin, the sonic crack, the rack of a slide.


20 posted on 12/18/2024 1:33:11 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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