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Behind the Curtain: Deep Democratic depression
Axios ^ | November 08, 2024 | Jim VandeHei , Mike Allen

Posted on 11/08/2024 8:06:06 AM PST by Red Badger

Democrats didn't just lose badly.

They lost to a convicted felon they ridiculed as a racist, misogynistic fascist — and an existential threat to democracy.

And they didn't just lose to President-elect Trump. They lost the Senate ... likely the House ... many Hispanic men ... all three Blue Wall states ... both Southern swing states ... even substantial support in the bluest of states and cities.

Why it matters: Top Democrats, including Harris advisers, tell us they feel like a lost party. Come January, they'll have scant power in the federal government, and shriveling clout in the courts and states.

The traditional media structure sympathetic to their views, and hostile to Trump's, was shattered. The big picture: In our volatile, 50-50 America, where voters seem to swing fast and hard against the ruling party, resurrection and resurgence are often an off-year election away.

But the road to the Democrats' Damascus requires deep, honest self-reflection — and, many party insiders tell us, entirely new leadership.

White House officials were dismissive of reporting about screwups. When journalists held up a mirror, they often looked away.

President Biden, 81, has faded even before his job is done. Harris' team didn't even want him to campaign. Impossible to imagine Democrats turning to him for sage advice on what's next.

Harris just lost what Democrats considered an eminently winnable race, despite relatively light scrutiny and more money than any candidate in U.S. history. Hard to see her guiding Democrats out of the wilderness.

The party's two most popular figures — Barack Obama and Michelle Obama — are happy to help in the waning moments of elections but aren't going to lead a revival.

Look to the states, Democrats will say: Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania ... Gretchen Whitmer in Michigan ... Andy Beshear in Kentucky ... newly elected Josh Stein in North Carolina.

Other Democratic future faces: Senator-elect Elissa Slotkin in Michigan, and Ruben Gallego, who leads in the race for U.S. senator in Arizona.

All are from states Trump just won. They're certainly politically smarter than the Washington crew. The evidence: They didn't lose.

Democrats will now start the predictable cycle of blame-casting and bellyaching. Every losing party does it. Then, they'll turn to a more serious autopsy: why they're bleeding support virtually everywhere.

Rep. Debbie Dingell (D-Mich.), who campaigned for Harris every single day the House was out of session, told us that if you were out there listening to union members, to Black voters, to men, to young people, to working women and men struggling to pay for groceries ... you knew what was coming. "Democrats shouldn't do the blame game," she said. "They should do: 'What aren't we doing right — all of us?' "

Doug Sosnik, a wise, clear-eyed Democratic strategist who bases analysis on empirical data, not emotion, is a good place to start.

He sent us a post-election deck attached to a one-word email: "bloodbath."

Sosnik's report captures the blunt reality: "The 2024 election marks the biggest shift to the right in our country since Ronald Reagan's victory in 1980. ... [Trump's victory this week] was due to support from a multi-racial working-class group of voters." The coalition includes:

One in three voters of color voted for Trump.

Trump increased his support with Hispanic voters by double digits compared to 2020.

Trump carried Hispanic men by 10 points.

Trump improved his support with voters ages 18-29 by 10+ points.

Between the lines: But top Democrats tell us the party needs to dig deeper into root causes — and to reach back to COVID to truly understand why many of these voters revolted.

It was the COVID era when many voters felt elites were lecturing them on wearing masks, hiding at home and shutting down their businesses. This preachy, judgmental tone alienated many former and would-be Democrats.

Word-policing escalated.

This invigorated the non-legacy media and started pushing Hispanic and Black men away, starting in the last presidential election. Centrist Democrats tell us this is why even big cities turned redder this month.

The political correctness movement calmed. But Biden, then Harris, could never find words or ways to convince working-class voters they had policy ideas to make prices lower, jobs more lucrative, the future brighter.

Rep. Tom Suozzi (D-N.Y.), a moderate, told Axios' Andrew Solender: "We have to stop pandering to the base and we have to start listening to the people ... People are sick of extremism."

Ezra Klein, the popular liberal New York Times columnist, wrote Thursday: "I do think a lot of Democrats have alienated themselves from the culture that many people, and particularly many men, now consume. I think they lost people like Rogan by rejecting them, and it was a terrible mistake."

The country has moved right on immigration and energy, and Democrats need a new approach — fast.

The Senate border bill that Harris repeatedly pointed to was "an insider talking point that was too disconnected from what Americans had witnessed in their own communities for the past four years," former Biden adviser Andrea Flores wrote on X. She says Democrats urgently need fresh ideas.

What we're watching: There'll be a strong tug back to the blue-collar-focused politics of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). He sounded more like Trump than his party elites. And Sanders was quick out of the gate with a scathing critique of his party's rich, educated ruling elite.

"It should come as no great surprise," Sanders wrote, "that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working-class people would find that the working class has abandoned them."

Hard to see Democrats losing bigger chunks of the working class and winning elections. So Sanders makes a great point. But Trump often sounds more like the socialist Sanders than a Mitt Romney.

A real fight to best serve the less educated and less wealthy seems good for a nation divided by education and income, operating in a system tilted decisively to the latter.

Finally, Dems need to grapple with their denialism. Democrats let their hatred of Trump put them in a state of denial about Biden and the party's unpopularity — confident that Trump's toxicity was enough. They didn't believe their own eyes when staring at polls.

So they got crushed. Now they have dilemma and opportunity: In a 50-50 country, how do they articulate a theory of the case to win back voters — and power?

The bottom line: This will be the Democratic story of 2025.

Axios' Alex Thompson contributed reporting.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAAKPJEq1Ew

GLOOM, DESPAIR AND AGONY ON ME!

DEEP DARK DEPRESSION! EXCESSIVE MISERY!

IF IT WEREN'T FOR BAD LUCK, I'D HAVE NO LUCK AT ALL!

GLOOM DESPAIR AND AGONY ON ME!........................

1 posted on 11/08/2024 8:06:06 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Really an idiot analysis. There was nothing at all “socialist” in Trump’s campaign.

But we should encourage this linw of thought. We want Democrats to believe they were not marxist enough in their campaign.


2 posted on 11/08/2024 8:09:37 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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To: MNJohnnie

They will do that without any prodding from us. They always do!.................


3 posted on 11/08/2024 8:10:42 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

The sleeping giant was awakened. It can only be pushed so far before it responds from its slumber.


4 posted on 11/08/2024 8:12:49 AM PST by Racketeer
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To: Red Badger

I’m watching The View right now, they’re yelling at each other!


5 posted on 11/08/2024 8:12:59 AM PST by CtBigPat (I early voted for Trump in CT!)
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To: Red Badger

Screw them, they still don’t get it

FTA “A real fight to best serve the less educated and less wealthy seems good for a nation”

The arrogance is disgusting.


6 posted on 11/08/2024 8:13:40 AM PST by Skwor
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To: Red Badger

Said another way:
The Dems got Schlonged!
Hee Haw!!


7 posted on 11/08/2024 8:14:25 AM PST by lee martell
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To: CtBigPat

Let me know when they start gnawing on each other’s ankles.


8 posted on 11/08/2024 8:14:43 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Have the ballot counters in Maricopa County and Las Vegas sobered up yet?)
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To: Red Badger

Harris lost for two reasons:

1. The terrible policies of the Biden administration (open borders, inflation, skyrocketing crime, foreign wars etc.

2. Harris was the worst candidate to ever run for President in the modern era, possibly since the beginning of the republic. She was an empty pantsuit with no original thoughts, a terrible record as the “Border Czar” and she could not explain how she was going to make this country better (without plagiarizing some of Trump’s ideas.)


9 posted on 11/08/2024 8:19:52 AM PST by Signalman
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To: MNJohnnie
There was nothing at all “socialist” in Trump’s campaign.

Except through Bernie's (always socialist 24/7) Eyes.

10 posted on 11/08/2024 8:20:01 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Red Badger
And supported by Proud Boys, Angry Dads. Grumpy Grandads & Curmudgeons

Not to mention anyone on a Social Security that will no longer be taxed come January 2025.

11 posted on 11/08/2024 8:20:44 AM PST by spokeshave (Proud Boys, Angry Dads. Grumpy Grandads & Curmudgeons)
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To: Red Badger

The democrat party became the party that worked actively for the demise of Christianity, Judaism, the USA and of Western Civilization. The democrat party embraced the movement to destroy the family. The democrat party promoted the confiscation of legitimately-earned wealth and its redistribution to specially-privileged demographic groups. The democrat party deprecated masculinity and promoted self-loathing, weakness, and passivity.

If today’s democrats are depressed, it’s because their philosophy of life is deeply nihilistic, self-defeating and pathologically contrary to human nature.

The public fired the party that ordered social media to control thoughts and punish dissenting opinions. The democrat party deserved to be rejected.


12 posted on 11/08/2024 8:21:57 AM PST by I want the USA back (Voltaire: To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.)
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To: MNJohnnie

One of the most annoying things the left did was to distort what Trump said. They repeated the lies over and over and over again. Good people on both sides, blood bath, dictator on day one, losers and suckers and so on. It’s a dishonest tactic that was ineffectual. It makes their own people crazy.


13 posted on 11/08/2024 8:23:21 AM PST by DeplorablePaul
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To: FlingWingFlyer

They’re arguing over “How did this happen?!?” without considering that their candidate was a drunken airhead, that they believed their own propaganda or that 20 million votes fraudulently showed up for Dementia Joe but not Kamala.


14 posted on 11/08/2024 8:24:44 AM PST by CtBigPat (I early voted for Trump in CT!)
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To: MNJohnnie

Article:

“Ruben Gallego, who leads in the race for U.S. senator in Arizona”

If we could somehow squeak by in that race—a challenge but could happen with a lot of votes still to count—it would be the perfect nail on the Democratic coffin.


15 posted on 11/08/2024 8:25:25 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: MNJohnnie

Really an idiot analysis.

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I agree. I glanced through it and I didn’t see any mention of the Black support for Trump.


16 posted on 11/08/2024 8:26:45 AM PST by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: Red Badger

They are a lost party. Elites comprise their party. That’s it, and they know it.


17 posted on 11/08/2024 8:27:16 AM PST by Karoo
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To: DeplorablePaul

American news consumers have well-developed BS detectors.


18 posted on 11/08/2024 8:29:14 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: DeplorablePaul

Yep. I think there a lot of people like Elon Musk who would of not been so passionately involved this year. He never been this politicly active. Free Speech is a very important issue for him and he clearly saw the threat


19 posted on 11/08/2024 8:29:45 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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To: Red Badger

Go price a pickup.


20 posted on 11/08/2024 8:30:18 AM PST by alternatives?
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