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Stop Drilling Holes In The Ships Hull: Why Conservatism Needs a Course Correction
Twitter ^ | September 27, 2024 | Croaky Caiman

Posted on 09/27/2024 1:05:53 PM PDT by TBP

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To: SavannahWonderer

“ Why you overlooked 99% of profoundly good Catholic Charities that are truely Catholic to draw attention to the 1% (funneling invaders in, etc) that are catholic-ish truely saddens me.”

Tony. Show me the amount of money Catholic charities gets from the government for Ilegal alien support and migrant support, and then show me where they get 99 times that amount for all the other good work. The largest part of their business is illegal aliens and leftist social activism.

Catholic social charity is a corrupt organization and it works against America with all it’s might.


41 posted on 09/27/2024 2:31:44 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: xzins

I remember all the “intellectual conservatives” that would sit around pontificating the doom and gloom of Reagan’s economic policies.

They were so Keynsian. Argued the Phillips Curve was fact.


42 posted on 09/27/2024 2:33:19 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Clay Bevis and Cuck Butthead are panty wadded, pearl clutching cowards. Rush deserves better.)
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To: SavannahWonderer

No I’m not doing that. Catholic Charities is well known around here for usurping the name of Catholic
They are a front

Get with it


43 posted on 09/27/2024 2:34:50 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Rocco DiPippo
"And I'll take a not-so-wild guess that he/she has an FR account and is a loyal Zeeper too."

I remember something Tony Snow (RIP) said on FR many years ago (yeah, he used to mix it up here and didn't hide who he was)--that DC operatives used to test out what bulls**t they were planning to pull on sites like FR, and gave the forum kudos for not letting much 'get by'.

44 posted on 09/27/2024 3:04:13 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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To: Luke21

Well, I agree with him that we don’t need a demagogue. At one time I thought we needed Oliver Cromell. Now it begins to look too late for Cromwell and that we need Vlad Dracul.

But since those two guys don’t return phones calls, I guess I will have to stick with Trump. The writer will be fortunate that I can’t have either of my first two choices; he will fare better under Trump.


45 posted on 09/27/2024 3:13:39 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: TBP

Sure-

BUT... Trump is the only person in the last few years which has come along, independently wealthy (can’t easily be controlled), intellectually honest and thick headed enough to actually push for changes.

If it were not for Trump, the Republican party would be DEFINED by the likes Bush, Romney, McCain, Graham, McConnel...


46 posted on 09/27/2024 3:14:04 PM PDT by Red6
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To: TBP

“We do need to rebuild the philosophical and activist elements of our movement.”

wow! sounds like the resurrection of the “true conservatism” bunch, like the Bush family, Karl Rove, Bill Krystal, and the cesspool at National Review ...

“philosophy”, “activism”, and “principles” brought us the Bushes and Romney, Haley and the whole rotten lying traitorous bunch of “true conservatives” that rotted and hollowed out the GOP ever since Reagan left office ...

THANK GOD that’s all over with, and THANK GOD we have a PRACTICAL LEADER, namely Donald J. Trump, who elucidates and implements ACTUAL solutions to stave off the collapse of our Republic deliberately fostered by the leftist fascist socialist who have been in charge ever since obama was elected ...

“philosophy”, “activism”, and “principles” never paid a penny on a single mortgage, never filled a single gas tank, never paid for a single dozen of eggs ... “philosophy”, “activism”, and “principles” do NOTHING!

TOUGH leaders who are willing and able to stand up to the slings and arrows [and actual bullets] of the corrupt media, the Deep State, Congress, the fascist leftist Democrat party and the heads of states of ALL of our enemies and erstwhile allies, and continues to thrive and function are who we need ...

only cowardly and traitorous RINOs whine about the need for “philosophy”, “activism”, and “principles”, and THANK GOD Donald J. Trump has relegated those worthless, corrupt, lying pieces of excrement to the dustbin of history ...


47 posted on 09/27/2024 3:16:14 PM PDT by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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To: catnipman

‘Croaky Caiman’ is Adam Kinzinger’s new husband.


48 posted on 09/27/2024 3:22:22 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: TBP
Modern conservatism by Russell Kirk was defined by what it stood against, not what it stood for. It was inevitable that it would collapse.
49 posted on 09/27/2024 3:22:51 PM PDT by yuleeyahoo (“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!” - the deep-state)
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To: TBP
Philosophy is fine when you aren't struggling for survival. We will literally not live through a Harris Presidency.

As bad as things are right now, it will get much much worse if that corrupt idiot is allowed to gain power in this nation.

The guy that wrote this is an idiot. Now is not the time to be navel gazing, we are in a f***ing war, and wishing things were different is just detrimental to our survival.

This is *NOT* the conversation we need to be having right now. This is the conversation we need to be having after January 21st. It is idiocy to talk about this stuff *NOW*.

50 posted on 09/27/2024 3:28:27 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Tench_Coxe
Guy imho sounds like a jilted Mike Pence, Bill Kristol, or George Will.

Yes he does. He smells like a "never Trumper", and rather than listen to him, he needs to be told "Shut Up!" You had your chance to bitch about philosophy and ideals, but now we are committed, so pull the wagon and stop trying to steer it!

51 posted on 09/27/2024 3:30:56 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: noiseman
They’re intellectual and emotional children who just want what they want, no matter how selfish or irrational, and they will lash out, even to the point of violence, when they don’t get it. It’s impossible to reason with such people, just as it’s impossible to reason with a bratty child who constantly throws tantrums when he is told “No.”

Exactly right. Some on our side are too, but even the worst of us are more rational than the left.

52 posted on 09/27/2024 3:32:57 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: TBP

TL;DR.


53 posted on 09/27/2024 3:40:21 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Trump 2024! )
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To: noiseman

“tried fruitlessly for years to convince liberals of the error of their ways via facts and logic.”

Amen! I’d cite data and they would respond, “I feel...” My Australian Shepherd dog could think circles around them. All emotion, vanity and ego. And anger. LOTS of anger. Because the world doesn’t work out for them...


54 posted on 09/27/2024 3:41:00 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: Reverend Wright

What is the meaning of ‘Muh ?


55 posted on 09/27/2024 3:45:40 PM PDT by webheart
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To: TBP

Why don’t we rebuild it in a way that results in 1.4% inflation...$1.99 a gallon gas...$1.99 a gallon milk...a southern border sealed tight...Iran’s nuclear program shut down...North Korea not firing missiles toward Guam...Russia not invading smaller neighbors....


56 posted on 09/27/2024 3:46:00 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Import The Third World,Become The Third World)
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To: stanne

“Get with it” - You were gritting your teeth, weren’t you...
Step back, breath deep, focus on the good.


57 posted on 09/27/2024 4:04:48 PM PDT by SavannahWonderer (First do no harm)
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To: yuleeyahoo
Modern conservatism by Russell Kirk was defined by what it stood against, not what it stood for. It was inevitable that it would collapse.

That was something I realize a few years ago.

A group of conservative intellectuals were defining conservatism by saying "We are against what the left wants".

Sort of true as the left wishes to control every aspect of our lives down the smallest detail and I at least am not inclined to be controls. But it left a great deal out.

58 posted on 09/27/2024 4:09:58 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: SavannahWonderer

Focus on the good?

Tell us one good thing Catholic Charities has done or quit attacking me with your loyal defense of them


59 posted on 09/27/2024 4:12:34 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Mr Rogers
Amen! I’d cite data and they would respond, “I feel...” My Australian Shepherd dog could think circles around them. All emotion, vanity and ego. And anger. LOTS of anger. Because the world doesn’t work out for them...

Their heads are filled with nothing more than bumper sticker slogans. When they “debate”, they just spew undefined, meaningless platitudes, but they can’t provide even the simplest logical defense for any of them. Challenge them to define the terms they so casually toss around, or to provide an objective defense for their argument, and they simply can’t do it because they have nothing rattling around in their heads but the slogan itself. That’s why they’ve now concocted a convoluted defense mechanism that deems any beliefs contrary to their own, and certainly any attempt to debate their beliefs, as “hate” or “violence.” It’s a shield designed to protect them from ever having to defend their absurd worldview. And it’s childish, the adult equivalent of putting their fingers in their ears and yelling “blah…blah…blah…can’t hear you!”

What makes it even worse is that they’ve been pumped up all their lives on phony “self esteem”, so not only are they stupid, but they actually believe they’re brilliant. That gives them another mental crutch they can lean on, because if a conservative starts asking too many challenging questions they can just deem that person “unenlightened” and therefore unworthy of further discussion.

It’s incredible the extent to which they are so cock-sure about their positions, but can’t explain why they believe those things. They’re just human parrots, repeating phrases that others have planted in their brains, with no comprehension of the meaning of the squawks and chirps they utter.

60 posted on 09/27/2024 4:22:36 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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