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1 posted on 09/07/2024 3:18:36 PM PDT by grundle
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Feelings vs. evidence. Intentions vs. results. Posturing and virtue signalling vs. achieving real progress.


2 posted on 09/07/2024 3:21:08 PM PDT by sphinx
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I have had money taken from me for 50 years to try and “even” things out.

50 years

Five decades

Half a century

If they can’t fix it in 50 years, then they need to stop trying.

Would you keep bringing back plumbers that couldn’t fix a leak in your house for 50 years?


3 posted on 09/07/2024 3:24:49 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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Supporters of Equity also focus on graduation rates.


6 posted on 09/07/2024 3:42:08 PM PDT by Angelino97
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That Atlantic article is from 2012. Could it be published today? Or would it only survive in a “crackpot” website which the Atlantic would then demand to be cancelled?


7 posted on 09/07/2024 3:43:12 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (7/13/2024:The day the Democrats and their SA chose assassination as their primary political tool.)
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I just discovered my duplicate wording of “opponents of” in the title, and I have fixed it at my blog.


8 posted on 09/07/2024 3:48:25 PM PDT by grundle
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Admission and graduation rates are legitimate places to focus attention, but there’s a more subtle one that merits attention - the rigor of the majors the students who are the focus of ‘Equity’ admissions gravitate to. I don’t have stats to support this contention, but I’d bet a paycheck a disproportionate number of these kids bail out of rigorous disciplines (like those in the STEM fields) and end up in relatively bogus areas (like various ‘victim studies’ majors). And at a place like MIT where it’s tough to find a b*llsh*t major to hide in, that trend is going to have some noticeable consequences.

There’s now a fashionable trend at some universities to add “diversity” considerations to math and science courses, and I suspect it’s the direct result of attention to phenomena like that described above.


11 posted on 09/07/2024 4:05:10 PM PDT by Stosh
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A few years back, I had a conversation w/ a major donor to a private urban black high school. The guy bragged to me that the school’s graduates’ college matriculation rate was 98%.

I asked him what was the rate of college graduation from that cohort. He hadn’t even considered the question. To his shock, I explained to him why he hadn’t been told.


12 posted on 09/07/2024 4:36:53 PM PDT by nicollo (Remember when we had to close tags?)
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The great Thomas Sowell took on the topic of affirmative action in 2015: Thomas Sowell: Affirmative action is a wrong answer
13 posted on 09/07/2024 4:55:11 PM PDT by Dahoser (The Harris campaign and media allies are not using JOY and FORWARD accidentally. Look them up.)
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AA denies qualified students admission, giving it to the lesser qualified based on skin color, genitals or sexual behaviors that have zero predictive qualities to student performance.

Lesser qualified cannot compete against non-AA admitted students, grades suffer, lose confidence, drop out/kicked out, but get to keep 100% of their loan obligations.

School gets to virtue signal about their admissions of non-qualified but still admitted AA students, that’s their reward. Leads to more gushing news articles, awards from their in-groups, goverment cheese, promotions for the DEI hires. But the vast majority of AA students who fail out/rejected qualified students? Tough sh*t for them.

Its not as if universities’ first obligation is to their students, or anything.

Discrimination is part of the human condition. We do it every day, decide what things are better than others based on our prior experience.

Discrimination based on race, sex, or sexual behavior is illogical since it has no predictive ability. It is done for revenge for sins never experienced, by persons never suppressed, against persons innocent of the percieved crime. That is what makes it evil.


14 posted on 09/07/2024 4:56:06 PM PDT by TonyinLA (I don't have sufficient information to formulate a reasoned opinion said no lefty ever.)
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Wrong statistic. Today’s graduation rates are manipulated by lowering standards. Eighth graders in my father’s day were better prepared academically than today’s inner city high-school graduates.


16 posted on 09/08/2024 7:16:19 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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