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Zelensky's Kursk adventure: Russia does not prevent the enemy from making a mistake — Mercuris
EADaily ^ | 8/27/24 | EADaily

Posted on 08/28/2024 6:23:02 AM PDT by hardspunned

In the Kursk region, the Kiev regime is destroying its best forces. This was stated on the air of the Duran YouTube channel by British expert Alexander Mercuris.

He illustrated Kiev's mistake with a quote from Napoleon. "The Ukrainians are exhausting themselves — they are exhausting the ranks of their best servicemen, their reserves, while the Russians are moving in other directions. There is a famous quote from Napoleon: never interfere with the enemy when he makes a mistake," said Merkouris, quoted by RIA Novosti.

According to the expert, the Ukrainian Armed Forces also suffer heavy losses in armored vehicles. Russia may specifically not rush to oust the Armed Forces of Ukraine from In the Kursk region, in order to weaken the Ukrainian resistance in other sectors of the front, former Deputy chief of the British Defense General Staff Simon Mayall said in a comment to Sky News.

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My position on this evolved over the first week of the operation. My position is a little more fanciful:

Last summer the Ukes made a very similar type incursion towards Belgorod. Supposedly, there was some type nuclear material that could be had if their mad dash was fast enough. It wasn’t.

Although much larger, it’s the same operation. Who can’t handicap that boob Z’s moves? In the desperate situation the Ukes were in, the Russians figured they’d bait him into a trap with the Kursk Nuclear PP. The Russians probably also figured the PR opportunity would be a great lure as well. We all saw the insufferable western crowing and strutting. That’s was certainly something Z desperately wanted.

The area is as desolate, unpopulated and as undeveloped as any on the battle lines. It is heavily wooded, lots of streams and hills. It’s lousy for maneuver except for the one road in.

The Russians pulled troops back and let their defenses fall into disarray perhaps, the come hither facade. The Ukes took the bait. The Ukes came barreling down the one road with the very best equipment and troops they could peel off the Belarus front and Donbas lines as the Russians let the Ukes chase them.

Any hope of getting to the nuclear plant were gone three days in as the column bogged down and the Ukes started expanding their flanks out into the countryside until they reached the Russian forces edge of their pocket. Over the last week the forward movement of the Ukes stopped. The Russians are holding them there, killing them. The Russians aren’t interested in closing the pocket while Z continues to feed the slaughterhouse.

The armor that the Russians especially wanted to draw off has been mauled. The same thing will happen to the troops in the pocket when the Russians get around to collapsing it.

This is the best rope a dope action since the Rumble in the Jungle,

1 posted on 08/28/2024 6:23:02 AM PDT by hardspunned
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To: hardspunned

It sure did cost a lot of Russian planes and oil - was that part of the plan?


2 posted on 08/28/2024 6:27:24 AM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: hardspunned

Trust the plan !


3 posted on 08/28/2024 6:29:47 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: hardspunned

This bloodshed would be over if Ukraine would just give up its nuclear weapons stockpile and have Russia guarantee its security.

Oh, wait...


4 posted on 08/28/2024 6:35:40 AM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: hardspunned

So if I get this right:

Ukraines military is “crumbling” “as we speak”

Ukraine is scrapping the bottom of the barrell: Old men and woman

Russia has 300K troops hanging around doing nothing.

The obvious: press your advantage with the 300K and wipe out the remaining crumbling military IN UKRAINE and end the war.

No, instead let the Ukraine come into your territory and destroy your infrastructure and towns, displacing your citizens to boot, and make you look impotent so you can spring a “trap”?????

Dont you think also it would have been better to destroy the concentrated UKE old men and women forces while they were on the UKE side of the border?

I


5 posted on 08/28/2024 6:48:10 AM PDT by iluvschnitzle
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To: hardspunned

The best strategists in history have invaded Russia. It’s what you do when you want to go bold.


6 posted on 08/28/2024 6:49:36 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: hardspunned

My impression, based on my lack of expertise, is that the Kursk offensive is the Ukraine equivalent of when Lee took his troops into the center of Pennsylvania in an attempt to make McClellan split his forces, and also as a psyops move to cause discouragement in the Union population and provoke a negotiated settlement allowing the Confederacy to continue. That ended poorly at Gettysburg, though without Custer and his Michiganers the result might well have been different.

(No, I’m not saying the Ukes are like the Confederates, good or bad; the backstory is very different, but military tactics are the same regardless of the backstory of a war.)


7 posted on 08/28/2024 7:00:14 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: iluvschnitzle
Curiosity about various sources' articles posted to FR brings:
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My Brave browser opens to a Russian-language page -- https://eadaily.com/ru/ -- with the option for English.

"Contact information: 129090, Moscow, pl. Bolshaya Sukharevskaya, d. 9...."

It is interesting how much "journalism" about the Ukraine-Russia war is somehow well-tinged with a geopolitical stance, one of the two so often proposed on FR threads: either 1) pro-Putin and antu-Zelensky, or 2) pro-Zelensky and anti-Putin, when in fact others will lead those non-NATO member nation governments in only a few years.

How will the war end? We'll find out. When it ends. In between the salvos of propaganda will continue to be fired, as if reflecting reality on the ground.

For one, I'm waiting for the proberbial fat lady to sing the last song. But until then, no US money and no US manpower should be involved.

Vote Trump. US out of NATO. US out of the UN, and the UN out of the US.

8 posted on 08/28/2024 7:10:56 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Unassuaged
It sure did cost a lot of Russian planes and oil - was that part of the plan?

there's literally nothing in that area. Its like Canada invading the USA through Northern Idaho. Now they have to support their new front. Can they do it?

The oil refineries Ukraine has been hitting with drone strikes are in an exact opposite direction. Its merely strikes of opportunity. Nothing to do with Kursk offensive.

9 posted on 08/28/2024 7:13:27 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

I dont claim to be a military strategist, but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn and partook in the Continental Common Sense Buffet at the lobby.....


10 posted on 08/28/2024 7:33:59 AM PDT by iluvschnitzle
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To: PGR88

Thanks, I admit I have not been following very closely.


11 posted on 08/28/2024 7:45:14 AM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: hardspunned

Still an open question, what is the objective of the Ukrainian incursion? One theory, that it was to draw Russian troops away from Donbas, seems moot since the Russian forces in Donbas have only accelerated their westward encroachment during the last month. The idea of capturing a nuclear plant and holding it hostage was never very plausible, and now seems off the table. Occupying ground to be traded off in a peace negotiation, assumes a degree of Russian agreeableness that defies events.

I am left with two possibilities. One is that the West pressured Ukraine into taking action to bolster its credibility for continuing financial aid, which has become increasingly pinched. Recall that the ill-fated “counteroffensive” last year was at the behest of the NATO governments, to “show us something.”

The other is that Ukraine government has shown signs of increasing internal instability, with generals and defense ministry disagreeing on strategy and in some cases apparently going their own way. . We now know that an insubordinate general took matters into his own hands and blew up the Nordstream pipeline against orders. The top general, General Syrskyi has been known for risking his troops in aggressive action. As commander in chief he may have devised and launched the Kursk operation on his own initiative, figuring no one will argue with success. Given the considerations described in the article however, it still could blow up in his face. We’ll see.


12 posted on 08/28/2024 8:21:56 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative. )
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To: hardspunned

Good analysis. There are reports that Russia had intel on Ukrainian intensions as far as four weeks out, but the Duma was divided as well as the military. Luckily for Russia, those who didn’t act didn’t prevent the efforts of those who did act to prepare. Maybe this was part of the deception, to show a divided Russian Command and Control allowing NATO to make another mad dash.

Unintended consequences in the planning and execution also played a role in reaction by Russia. There are reports that in some of the small hamlets (100 towns) that the AFU advance units killed the civilian populations... maybe the families refused to surrender costing advance scout elements to waste precious time. When the AFU failed to follow up to the couple of hamlets and Russian’s reclaimed them the families bodies were paraded out for the press.

600 vehicles gone. 8,000 casualities. Two brigades lost combat effectiveness first 6 days. Three more brigades pushed into the mess. 11,000 trapped.

Capture the Kursk NPP, create a buffer, force Donbas redeployment of Russian troops to Kursk. - Ukraine’s PR War is claiming victory with headlines 30,000 Russian Troops diverted - Mission Accomplished.

Next time Zelinski wants to reposition 30,000 Russian troops, he shouldn’t murder 22,000 NATO trained soldiers in his five maneuver units that backfill frontlines to prevent breakthru’s....

Ukraine is experiencing a Red-wave and rolling thunder.


13 posted on 08/28/2024 8:41:54 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: iluvschnitzle

Russia has balanced the bleed with the need to destroy the AFU while keeping NATO from occuplying West Ukriane.

I think Ukriane has lost 850,000 KIA. Some counts have it over 1M. Russia is around 75,000 KIA/30,000 Wagner KIAs.

Ukraine will lose a lot of land in the next two months.


14 posted on 08/28/2024 8:46:05 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: hinckley buzzard

It’s one thing to take lightly defended territory. It’s another thing to hold that territory when you are being counter attacked. It will be interesting to see if the Ukrainians can get men and supplies to their troops on the front lines. It doesn’t look too easy from the maps I’ve seen. The coming battle will come down to how well Ukraine can resupply its forces.


15 posted on 08/28/2024 9:12:33 AM PDT by Rdct29 (The Democrats Are The New Nazi Party )
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To: Jumper

Is it possible to marshal that very, very heavily armored formation under the Russian noses, without Russian technology and Russian spies noticing it? The formation could not have been disbursed either. Z knew the part he was going to play this time, Heinz Guderian. Could the Ukes have pulled this force off the Donbas lines and Belarus front and then transported it all that distance unnoticed by Russian eyes? Look at where the Russians channeled the Ukes. Bum F, rural Russia. Very few civilians and little infrastructure to loose. The only serviceable road in or out, the Russians allow to remain open.

Have you heard how the Chechen Hunter/Killer formations were transferred to the edges of the Russian pocket BEFORE the Ukes moved? As we type, those specifically trained units are hunting and killing the amor less and coming about now the ammo less, hapless Ukes trapped in the pocket. Answer one question and we’ll know if we’re on to something. As the Chechens arrived were the few civilians there being evacuated?


16 posted on 08/28/2024 9:14:22 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

Yes about Russia preparation and Chechans. There is a real fog of war. Most the Ukrainian bloggers admitted the first two weeks most of their own reporting was based on Russian sources. Zelinski will forever be compared with Hitler after this is over.


17 posted on 08/28/2024 9:18:31 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: Unassuaged

How so? Yes, the Russians knew they’d have to allow Uke successes to dupe the Ukes into sending more formations to their doom. I’m sure the Russians did a cost benefit analysis before starting this. The benefit? Donbas IS collapsing, Heinz Guderian will make an appearance. He will be at the head of the tank column surrounding Kiev shortly.

The Russians doing this to the checker playing, rainbow politician generals in the Pentagon is criminal.


18 posted on 08/28/2024 9:21:05 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: iluvschnitzle
--- "...partook in the Continental Common Sense Buffet at the lobby....."

Good. Then....

"Vote Trump. US out of NATO. US out of the UN, and the UN out of the US."

19 posted on 08/28/2024 9:31:12 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Grzegorz 246

Big difference between people. Most, on whichever side, accept the analysis of individuals they’ve come to know and to trust.

I, on the other hand, accept every sides’ analysis as research. Using all that data, I try to come to an understanding of what’s going on.

If this was a rope a dope and if the Russian tank formations from Belarus surround Kiev shortly it’d be a helluva daily double. If I could hit that at that the track, I’d have a heart attack paying the taxes on the pay out. Or I’m pretty stupid.


20 posted on 08/28/2024 9:31:32 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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