Posted on 08/27/2024 9:57:44 AM PDT by whyilovetexas111
You may be familiar with the debate about aircraft carriers – that they are too expensive to buy and maintain. Perhaps the aircraft carrier is obsolete, and the Navy should focus on building more frigates and destroyers.
Yet another debate is brewing up involving the DDG(X) program, in which the Navy wants to build a new class of guided missile destroyers by the 2030s.
And, sadly for the Navy, this new warship class is getting its share of bad press and doubtful commentary.
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I remember reading the British admirals were not happy their new battleships couldn’t keep up with the equivalent USA battleships in heavy seas at the start of WWII. Just another sign of a failing empire.
The Airforce had a very effective airship in the warthog, but it wasn’t what they wanted.
The thing that helps us is that they are built with good ol’ chinese quality.
their policy regarding equal employment opportunities for transgenders? /sarc
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They get the same accommodations and opportunities as the Uyghurs. /sarc
At least it will be running “Windows for Warships”
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/02/windows_for_war_1.html
The thing that helps us is that they are built with good ol’ chinese quality.
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Quantity has a quality of its own.
The thing that helps us is that they are built with good ol’ chinese quality.
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Quantity has a quality of its own.
In this modern technological era, virtually all naval surface combatants are obsolete. Building more of them is lunacy. Sending them to sea with young crews negligent and cruel.
Just as long a the destroyers are built with the most environmentally friendly materials, are solar and wind powered, designed and built by DEI amnesty aliens and militant Marxist Union labor.
I think it's mainly about funding the procurement bureaucracy and maintaining their control.
My brother worked in finance at a big name defense contactor. He said the biggest issue was DOD not settling on a spec, endless change orders, shutting work or a production line down and then paying for it to start again.
Endless waste and mismanagement and zero discipline in the procurement process, as though the procurement process itself and not working weapons systems was the goal.
You can bet the CCP has multiple Sunburn missiles with every carriers’ names on them.
The US has just become accustomed to fighting enemies so inferior in capability that we have not suffered such damage since.
A naval war with China would probably see at least that number.
The 7,500-ton Constellation class frigate will be utterly useless due to its inability to shoot down incoming ballistic missiles. BMD is now required for new significantly large and expensive vessels.
The DDG(X) has problems but those aren’t fatal. The Constellations are utter boondoggles.
Yep, and the navy did not have a reliable way to stop the old SS-N-22 Moskit decades ago. The newer stuff has to be harder than that.
These are great ships as long as we do not have a naval war. With the advances in drones even a third world army will have the power to sink our ships. Being light weight and armor less they are floating coffins for the crews. Need to rethink our ideas of a navy. WW III will not be anything like WW II.
That is a ‘might happen’ at this point.
“Is our weapons procurement process so dysfunctional that we cannot do better? “
The number of problems with the system are legion. But I’d say the first and foremost problem is that every Congressman can diddle directly on each line item. The problem is who gets how much and when.
I thought the 44-gun United States-class frigate was a good design.
It looks like LCS v 2.0 to me.
Haha. Got that but had to read it a couple of times.
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