Posted on 08/26/2024 9:50:28 AM PDT by grundle
All I can say is "AMEN" to that!
4 gallons of gas has more energy then the entire battery pack of a electric Ford F-150
SS batteries combined with solar can reduce your reliance and exposure to the utility company
So far I have not seen any serous specs on this so called battery. How much does it weigh? How does it do in the cold or heat? How durable. Just a few claims is all they are making.
In the interim it is doing wonders for the price of silver.
That would be a hell of an amperage draw on existing chargin stations.
“.....Now, if you're thinking that all this sounds too good to be true, well, that's because it kinda is. There definitely is a catch, and that catch is the fact that these ultra-fast charging batteries require some pretty solid infrastructure for you to get the claimed nine-minute charge time.......”
Let me tell you, that there is no way that a “typical existing” home, residential neighborhood, can supply that kind of power in that time frame without major (and very expensive) electric upgrades. If you want to put in a commercial charging station for more than say 2 or 3 such battery vehicles, it will also take major and expensive electrical upgrades even at commercial customers. If you have an large Apartment complex (or Condo) and want to offer more than say 5 charging stations, same story.
Recently, in the “small existing condo” I live in I worked with the HOA to get electrical panel changes so that all condo owners could install one very small (30 Amp charging circuit or 24 Amp max charging output....new EV standard is now typically 40 to 50 Amps per charging station) per condo unit.
There is no way that massive implementation of such battery operated EV’s or PHEV’s can be implemented.
It explodes 10x harder.
When you have an actual production vehicle using it, and if it lives up to the claims, then I’ll raise an eyebrow, until then its just noise.
Well said.
“If you can’t charge at home, forget it.”
I’m sure you’ll still be able to charge at home, but it would take a hell of a lot longer than 9 minutes - more like many hours.
You figure that for it to go 600 miles it has to store about 150KWh. with a 240, 50amp home charger it would take about 12 hours for a complete charge. and cost you around $60 in California at the current electric rate (less in most other states). Which really isn’t bad, and unless you’re going on a long trip, you don’t need a full charge - a couple hundred miles a day would more than suffice, which would take only a couple of hours of charging time at home.
As far as I’m concerned the most important spec for a battery is charging time. Range is secondary. I’d be perfectly happy with a 5-10 minute charging time and a 300miles range. On long trip I usually stop every 150 miles anyways for bathroom breaks and just to rest a bit.
A race to see whether the E-Cat cold fusion generator or the SS battery hits the shelves first.
Sorry, not convinced & the price will still be a huge obstacle for the ordinary person. And that’s only part of the argument.
Oh, good to know.
Your post makes sense and a lot of good loints. I still believe the only electric car I would consider is a gas/electric hybrid with indefinite range and a cheaper to replace battery. Putting at least 3/4 of electric vehicles as gas electric hybrids and put better and better batteries in them AND enough fuel capacity to Exceed most or all current gas only vehicles and you would end range anxiety and sell many more than currently.
Pretty sure they’ll only be available to Elites and their higher-end minions. All the rest of us unwashed peons can walk or take public transit, like our ‘betters’ have ordered us to.
IF we let that happen.
USA single family home service is 240 volt not 100. Your 120 volt appliances use one phase of the split phase of your two wire 240V feed. Nearly every city or county code is now 200 amps at 240V. That’s 48,000 watts. 200kw at 48kw is about four hours of charging time. Which would be done as the person sleeps overnight. That’s for 600 miles of range which Very VERY few people drive more than 100 miles in fact 94% are less than 30 miles and half are less than 6 miles.
https://afdc.energy.gov/data/mobile/10318
50 miles in a 5 passenger Model 3 Tesla in Texas heat with the A.C. Ripping uses 255wh per mile. This is from my drive today btw I drove from far North Texas to Addison and back to smoke at the steakhouse cigar bar. It’s a 50 mile round trip. I used 12.75 kWh for that trip which is ten miles farther than the average American commuter trio per day.
12.75 kWh at 50 amps 240V takes 70 minutes to put back that’s also real world I just plugged in the Tesla to it’s 50 amp 240V plug and it was finished in 72 minutes.
Virtually no EV in the USA has greater than 80 amp 240V charging because unlike China or the EU we don’t have 400V triple phase power to residential units like those countries do. In China 400V 3phase is everywhere why because one of the three phases to ground is single phase 240V the standard global voltage outside the USA and Japan.
My main home has 300 amp service and the steel building where the cars are is on its own panel with 200 amp service. I could charge 4 Tesla at once and two or three more from the main home if I chose too. Both the home and the steel build have large solar panel systems on them so large I export power every time the sun is up and out of the clouds which in this part of Texas is 220 days per year or more on a 30 year climate average. My trip to Addison cost me zero dollars in energy costs as the panels have long since recovered their purchase and install cost with power sold to ERCOT. My Volvo would have used 2 gallons of 93 octane to cover the same trip at $3.50 a gallon that why it’s sitting lonely and the Tesla gets all the loving these days.
“Pretty sure they’ll only be available to Elites and their higher-end minions. All the rest of us unwashed peons can walk or take public transit, like our ‘betters’ have ordered us to.
IF we let that happen.”
During the pandemic the roads were gloriously free of peons...only “essential workers” were using them and the powers that be saw what it would be like if they could get 90% or more of the cars off the road. I was essential I have to admit it was so nice to be able to cruise at 80mph any time of the day and no grid lock anywhere at any time. So yeah EVs are for the upper classes and the rabble can wall,bike or take public transportation for all the wealthy care.
I’m leaning toward a plug in hybrid as well. More flexibility and no range anxiety, and we got solar so while in town we would hardly use any gas at all with a 40 miles electric range PIH.
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