Posted on 08/22/2024 10:58:03 AM PDT by pboyington
Wait until the war is over.
Bravo! I despise that vile, commie fraud Walz with every fiber of my being.
I get the movie reference but Tampon Timmy would have said MACV SOG.
He retired as a Master Sgt. No dishonor there. Scampering away from his duty upon the warning order, the bull$ting re his ‘combat’ service IS the point. His son is his son too stupid to know what his dad is.
Yes, excellent!
who would have had to sign off on his national guard leave to go to a communist country every year for the last 15 years of his service as a senior NCO.
BOOM!
Your first question:
I’m not a fan of Mr. Walz but regarding his rank when he retired, I ask what is on his retirement papers from the Army. His true title is Master Sergeant (Retired).
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The answer is straight from the MNG:
“While Walz temporarily held the title of command sergeant major he “retired as a master sergeant in 2005 for benefit purposes because he did not complete additional coursework at the U.S. Army Sergeants Major Academy,” Army Lt. Col. Kristen Augé, the Minnesota National Guard’s State Public Affairs Officer, told Just the News.
The statement reignited a controversy that began during his 2018 election for governor in which National Guardsman claimed on social media and in a paid ad that Walz declined to deploy to Iraq for combat duty in 2005 and forfeited his title of command sergeant major. Walz chose to run for Congress that year.
The governor’s biography, published on the state’s official website, says that “Command Sergeant Major Walz” retired from the Minnesota National Guard in 2005. At the time he was serving as one of the highest ranking members of the 1-125th Field Artillery Battalion.
The Minnesota National Guard disputed his description of his final rank.
“Governor Tim Walz served from April 8, 1981, to May 16, 2005. Governor Walz served in the Minnesota National Guard’s 1st Battalion, 125th Field Artillery after transferring from the Nebraska National Guard in 1996. While serving in Minnesota, his military occupational specialties were 13B - a cannon crewmember who operates and maintains cannons and 13Z -field artillery senior sergeant. In Nebraska, he served as a 11Z - infantry senior sergeant, and a 71L - administrative specialist. He held multiple positions within field artillery such as firing battery chief, operations sergeant, first sergeant, and culminated his career serving as the command sergeant major for the battalion,” Army Lt. Col. Kristen Augé, Minnesota National Guard’s State Public Affairs Officer, told Just the News in a statement Wednesday.
“He retired as a master sergeant in 2005 for benefit purposes because he did not complete additional coursework at the U.S. Army Sergeants Major Academy,” she added.
According to Army Regulation 600-8-19, a solider who does not complete the requisite coursework results is automatically demoted.
“The Soldier must complete the U.S. Army Sergeants Major Course as a condition of this promotion. Failure to meet the condition will cause demotion per AR 600 – 8 – 19,” the regulation reads.”
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4256919/posts
He needs to stop referring to himself as CSM (Retired) because that is not true, at all.
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Your 2nd question:
Also, regarding his “leaving his men”, what normally happens when an officer in charge of soldiers retires? Given that he was retiring, what should he have done?
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Walz was not planning on retiring when he was selected for CSM academy and frocked as E9, even though he had enough years to retire. He still had a few years left on his re-enlistment, which is required for one selected for a leadership academy. When a service member is selected for a senior enlisted academy, it’s understood the training will be completed and the billet filled. The ANG wants to get the return on their investment in training him. It’s a difficult school to get and they aren’t going to waste it on someone getting out.
Walz accepted the selection and understood this. He didn’t want to retire until he realized his unit was deploying. That’s when he dropped his papers. People who work the system like that are looked down upon in the military because it shows they are poor leaders who put themselves first and let their people down.
What Walz should have done is complete his commitment to his unit and MNG by finishing the academy, making E9 permanent and deploying as ordered. This may be hard to understand by people who haven’t served, but those who have get it. Also, vets don’t have respect for those who misrepresent their rank.
“I strongly suspect that you were never in command of anything:”
Thanks to several that gave informative responses to my post.
You got that right. I’ve never been in command of anything. I’ve not been in the military.
I’ve asked questions about Walz’s service. The only opinion I gave was that I think he lied about his service.
But I don’t want anyone, even Walz, to be judged based on inaccurate or misleading information.
It might have had to go all the way up to the G2 CI people.
You’re welcome.
Your opinion that Walz lied about his service is actually a fact verified by the Minnesota National Guard. There is no question he lied about his rank and continues to do so.
Imagine if Vance did that. What an uproar there would be.
I think it would be better to see an LES from his frocked CSM time to see what grade he was paid.
“I think he was genuinely moved by his dad’s speech.”
The little twerp was ACTing. This morning it was pointed out that Tampax Timmy’s speech last night was the exact speech he’s given for weeks now. (Especially the part about how his children came to be.) His brats have heard it many times. So, kid, quit blowing sunshine up our ass by pretending to be so moved.
He may be a tad addlebrained, but gimme a friggin’ break.
Bleccch! I hate these people.
Retiring just as the news comes that your unit is being deployed into combat and leaving them to people your junior is shameful and not in keeping with the ethos of good military leadership.
John Kerry wasn't much of a leader because, even though he did stick with his crew in Vietnam, he chose to take the first chance to go home - he had been very lightly wounded ("Band-Aid Wounds") three times in only three months, so he left after that short time and left his crew behind and went home, while our own Rifle Company Commander was hit hard by a pistol round through the inside of his right thigh but concealed his wound for days - just rubbed Johnson & Johnson First Aid cream into hole - but by day three, he collapsed from blood loss and infection and had to evacuated out. (Our battalion commander came forward, pulled his pants down to look at his wound and said "Tom, the good news is that nothing important was hit - the bad news is, you're going home")
Faithful leaders stay with their men, no matter what.
“Retiring just as the news comes that your unit is being deployed into combat and leaving them to people your junior is shameful”
Hadn’t thought of that. I see military service from the outside so hearing from you veterans is a learning experience for me and likely others on this board.
Bolshevik bubble gum, LOL.
He wpuld only be paid as an E-8. It is the pay grade E-8 and not the frocked rank of CSM.
I do not think he had approval. There would have been a CID Investgation if he traveled on a US Passport or record of hos debriefi g upn return if legally traveling.
Good angle to investigate.
The Pentagon is preparing those as we speak. If you know what I mean... 😀
Seriously, at this point who would be surprised if they just made up new papers?
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