If it really was Ukraine, why not start with the pipelines from Russian that are still in operation.
Posted on 08/15/2024 3:49:39 PM PDT by Kazan
Breaking: Volodymyr Zelensky approved the operation with US allies to blow up the Russian Nord Stream Pipeline to Europe.
Via Euro News:
• German prosecutors on Thursday issued the first arrest warrant in their investigation into the undersea explosions in 2022 that blew up the Nord Stream gas pipelines to Europe.
• German media outlets reported in a joint report that federal prosecutors obtained an arrest warrant in June against a Ukrainian national who may be living in Poland.
• The individual was identified as Volodymyr Z. (what a strange coincidence?)
• The explosion caused 800 million cubic meters of gas, equivalent to about 3 months of Danish gas supplies, to escape.
According to reports: The CIA knew Ukraine blew it up – and the CIA and Biden regime lied to the American public for two years now!
Mike Benz commented:
u wanna know how f*ckin crazy this is I had friends on Ukraine portfolio at State last year telling me with a straight face they thought Russia blew up their own pipeline. Meanwhile their boss had classified intelligence everything his underlings believed was total bullshit. https://t.co/qgmrBDG5J1 pic.twitter.com/nHhoXf9ySk
— Mike Benz (@MikeBenzCyber) August 15, 2024
Intel expert Mike Benz also commented on the real culprits: “Again just to remind what giant pieces of sh*t these ppl are, they’re only “leaking” this disinfo now bc Germany just arrested the Ukrainian diver who blew it up & NYT already printed that UKR’s intel is run top-down by the CIA, so Germany knows CIA knew, so CIA has to say this.”
This whole time the CIA, State Department, Biden White House, and media outlets in the know were lying to the American public about the explosion!
In February 2024, Tucker Carlson interviewed Russian President Vladimir Putin. During the interview Putin told him the CIA blew up the pipeline.
The Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines were blown up by explosions measuring 2.3 on the Richter scale, in 230 ft. of water, in two spots 40 miles apart. German, Danish and Swedish authorities promised investigations but have not published official findings. On March 27, 2023, the UN Security Council rejected calls by Russia and China for an international investigation.
On Feb. 8, 2023, veteran investigative journalist Seymour Hersh published a detailed account of how the Biden administration’s National Security Adviser, Jake Sullivan, instructed the CIA to destroy the Nord Stream pipelines in December 2022, well before the start of the war. Hersh’s detailed account remains the most convincing version of the events, although it is routinely either “debunked” or ignored by the mainstream press, who prefer to speculate about anonymous Ukrainians who blew up the massive, 3-inch thick concrete and steel pipelines using a sailboat.
Writing again on the anniversary of the attack, Hersh revealed new details from his intel source about how the Biden administration misled the CIA into thinking the sabotage plans were meant to deter Putin and preserve peace, while instead aiming to cripple Germany economically and make sure Germany did not succumb to Russian pressure.
“The Biden administration blew up the pipelines but the action had little to do with winning or stopping the war in Ukraine, Hersh wrote “It resulted from fears in the White House that Germany would waver and turn on the flow of Russia gas—and that Germany and then NATO, for economic reasons, would fall under the sway of Russia and its extensive and inexpensive natural resources. And thus followed the ultimate fear: that America would lose its long-standing primacy in Western Europe.”
Hersh’s source explained “the real reason why the Biden administration brought up taking out the Nord Stream pipeline.” While Russia was supplying gas and oil to the world via more than a dozen pipelines, Nord Stream 1 and 2 ran directly from Russia through the Baltic Sea to Germany.
“The administration put Nord Stream on the table because it was the only one we could access and it would be totally deniable,” Hershs CIA source told him. “We solved the problem within a few weeks—by early January—and told the White House. Our assumption was that the president would use the threat against Nord Stream as a deterrent to avoid the war.”
Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland was clearly involved in the plot, Hersh writes, since on January 27, 2022, she “stridently warned Putin that if he invaded Ukraine, “one way or another Nord Stream 2 will not move forward,” while noting that “We continue to have very strong and clear conversations with our German allies.”
When German chancellor Olaf Scholz visited Washington on February 7, 2022, Joe Biden warned that “If Russia invades … there will no longer be a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.” Asked by a reporter how he could promise this since the pipeline was under Germany and Russia’s control, Biden said: “We will, I promise you, we’ll be able to do it.”
Olaf Scholz did not seem fazed by this threat. “We are acting together. We are absolutely united, and we will not be taking different steps. We will do the same steps, and they will be very hard to Russia”, Scholz said.
To the CIA team planning the attack, this signaled that German Chancellor Olaf Scholz was “fully aware of the secret planning underway to destroy the pipelines,” Hersh’s source told him.
At this time, the intel community took this as confirmation their task was “to come up with a plan that would be forceful enough to deter Putin from the attack on Ukraine,” Hersh writes. “We did it. We found an extraordinary deterrent because of its economic impact on Russia. And Putin did it despite the threat,” Hersh’s source said.
It took two experts, US Navy deep sea divers, “months of research and practice” along with Norwegian seamen, who found the spot to plant the bombs before the mission was deemed a go. “Senior officials in Sweden and Denmark, who still insist they had no idea what was going on in their shared territorial waters, turned a blind eye to the activities of the American and Norwegian operatives. The American team of divers and support staff on the mission’s mother ship—a Norwegian minesweeper—would be hard to hide while the divers were doing their work. The team would not learn until after the bombing that Nord Stream 2 had been shut down with 750 miles of natural gas in it,” Hersh writes.
Despite Biden’s threat, Russia invaded Ukraine on Feb. 24, 2022. Nonetheless, the White House told the CIA planning group “to plant the necessary bombs and be ready to trigger them ‘on demand’ even after the war began,“ Hersh writes. After the charges were planted in June 2022 as part of the BaltOps military exercise, the team was disbanded. The explosion was later triggered by a single Norwegian fighter plane “dropping of an altered off-the-shelf sonar device at the right spot in the Baltic Sea,” Hersh writes.
“It was then that we understood that the attack on the pipelines was not a deterrent because as the war went on, we never got the command,” Hersh’s source told him. “We realized that the destruction of the two Russian pipelines was not related to the Ukrainian war but was part of a neocon political agenda to keep Scholz and Germany, with winter coming up and the pipelines shut down, from getting cold feet and opening up” the shuttered Nord Stream 2. “The White House fear was that Putin would get Germany under his thumb and then he was going to get Poland.”
“So the president struck a blow against the economy of Germany and Western Europe,” the source told Hersh. “He could have done it in June and told Putin: We told you what we would do.” The White House’s silence and denials were, he said, “a betrayal of what we were doing. If you are going to do it, do it when it would have made a difference.”
Vladimir Putin was not pushing anything during the Tucker Carlson interview that millions of Americans already knew.
Incredible that zeepers believe a couple dudes got drunk, chartered a small boat, dove to the bottom of the sea with explosives - finding the pipeline at that depth at night - and successfully blew it up.
CIA op.
> It was in Danish waters so it is technically an act of war against Denmark
international waters(?)
If the pipelines are a legitimate military target why does Ukraine still allow the passage of Russian natural gas through Ukraine?
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-natural-gas-f9f00df7195d01404f8cb2a43152a8b1
So if a Russian blows up the Ukrainian embassy in New York, the Russian should not face criminal charges, because the 2 countries are engaged in a war? (For purposes of this question, ignore the fact the embassy is considered Ukrainian soil)
Not one German was killed and Germany’s claim would be for economic compensation, not a casus belli. Yet, as a de facto ally of Ukraine against Russia, Germany has little basis for complaint.
Ukraine agreed to that as an accommodation to European economic interests and their need for natural gas.
“...Denmark. They ain’t complaining, and if they did, they lack the heft to make much of an impact.”
‘Muh rules-based international Order
Under international law and custom, embassies and diplomats are not to be attacked, even enemy embassies and diplomats in time of war. Attacking them intentionally as an individual is a criminal act that has no immunity.
Dig deep enough and one finds that much of international law is custom and practice driven by necessity.
If it really was Ukraine, why not start with the pipelines from Russian that are still in operation.
“...much of international law is custom and practice driven by necessity.”
So like the Russian invasion of Ukraine, then ?
Only for the nutcase who runs the Kremlin and his fanboys.
It was not an amateur operation. It took extensive abilities and resources. No way Ukraine did it without help from a major country.
Unilateralism for me; Rules-based international order for thee.
They blew it up from A GRASSY KNOLL ON THE BALTIC SEA COAST.
So it wasn't a valid military target since the collateral damage to an ally was not worth the damage to Russia since Russia is now just shipping its oil via different routes.
I'm sure the Greens are OK with this... until they start freezing in their Yurts.
I had a semester of international law in law school years ago. Some of it stuck in my memory. And you?
That makes sense. Who might that also apply to?
(better not say)
He's gonna get us all killed.
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