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Handguns in Defense Against Bears by Caliber | .357 Magnum
AmmoLand ^ | June 29, 2024 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 07/06/2024 4:11:01 AM PDT by marktwain

The most important aspect, if a confrontation occurs, is to have a firearm available, easily and quickly accessible. The specific caliber is less important. These updates include all the incidents we have been able to document to the date of the update after several years of intense searches. We have always sought examples of failures. We appreciate readers who help us document more cases.

Here are all the cases that have been documented where .357 Magnum caliber revolvers were fired in defense against bears. These cases do not include incidents where handguns were used with other lethal means or a mix of handgun calibers were used. If more than one handgun of the same caliber was used, the incident is included.  There are 14 incidents with a .357 caliber revolver (3 black, 10  brown, 1 polar bear), and 1 incident was a failure with a brown bear. 1 incident was indeterminate. The incidents are listed chronologically.

We have found fourteen cases in which .357 magnum revolvers were used to defend against bears. Twelve were successful, one was unsuccessful against a brown bear, and one was indeterminate.

September 1956 or 1957 — Geologist Alex Burton, Highland Valley, British Columbia, .357 Magnum Colt revolver, Black Bear.

I interviewed Alex Burton. The details of his cases have been detailed on AmmoLand before. When Alex arrived at the scene, the Cook had gone back to the dump. Alex had to retrieve his 357 Colt revolver, unlock the box it was in, retrieve ammunition from another box, and load it. While he was doing this, the Cook came running back from the dump, with the bear chasing him.


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The .357 is a solid performer against bears. Read the failure and consider what might have been done differently.
1 posted on 07/06/2024 4:11:01 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

A co worker I had, was in the USAF at Elmendorf. He said they carried .44 magnums. I don’t know if they ever had to use them.


2 posted on 07/06/2024 4:46:47 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of Air Force pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: marktwain

My favorite. You can’t beat the weight/power combination. Keep one on my nightstand. A 6” Smith isn’t much for concealability.


3 posted on 07/06/2024 4:55:06 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: marktwain

I suggest all that are able try a Kimber K6S 4”Combat. For me it is very accurate due to comfortable handling.


4 posted on 07/06/2024 5:04:54 AM PDT by KC Burke
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---Her father’s .357 revolver was in the cab of the pickup.
---cooler with about 80 lbs of meat in it.
---Dad then got his .357 and fired three rounds into the air. He shot another round
---shot his last shot in the air

I just...

5 posted on 07/06/2024 5:08:44 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

There is a lot to be said for 357 revolver but it comes from an era where proficient shooter made every shot count.

These days I prefer a high capacity semi auto in a large caliber, full power round if I have to go pistol but the real solution for a bear is a high power semi auto rifle


6 posted on 07/06/2024 5:13:58 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: marktwain

!?Rubber Bullets?! Then I realized that it was a European Country.

I will be packing a 44 Magnum and a 1911 .45ACP both loaded with Home Loaded +P+ and High Grain JHP or better rounds and plenty of spares in Speed Loaders and Extra Magazines ranging from 7 to 15 rounds per should I ever be in a Bear Zone.


7 posted on 07/06/2024 5:16:04 AM PDT by mabarker1 ( (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress!!!)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

And only 5 rounds losded...


8 posted on 07/06/2024 5:18:23 AM PDT by mabarker1 ( (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress!!!)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

Firing warning shots at a bear or mountain lion is a really bad idea.

If you have a bear or big cat stalking you and you are seriously in fear of your life shot to kill as soon as possible, preferably before it charges.

If you fire a warning shot it may just retreat to try a more stealthy surprise ambush attack down the trail.

If it decides to charge, you are going to need all the ammo you can get


9 posted on 07/06/2024 5:27:46 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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“These days I prefer a high capacity semi auto in a large caliber,”

Ditto. A 1911 45 ACP and a 40 cal with red dot sight. Nothing smaller.

IMO if a person carries a 9 mm he might just as well throw rocks.

I wonder what a 12 gauge high velocity 00 buck would do to a bear? Kill it or piss it off? There are some interesting 00 buck 12 ga shells out there that give tighter shot groups that are LEO and military grade ammo. A head shot with 9 of those pellets should incapacitate the bear. I really don’t want to find out for sure.


10 posted on 07/06/2024 5:37:23 AM PDT by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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I interviewed a cattle rancher whose ranch was on a salmon river in Alaska. He had to kill quite a few brown bears in self defense.

He said buck shot worked very well, and never failed him.

11 posted on 07/06/2024 5:54:41 AM PDT by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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To: redfreedom

There is a fella on YouTube who reviews all types of ammo for shotguns, even home made ones, and many of them are very deadly and do a lot of damage- can’t remeber his name now, but some of the ammo he tests is really wicked.


12 posted on 07/06/2024 6:11:06 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: redfreedom

Ok, found it

https://www.youtube.com/@taofledermaus/videos


13 posted on 07/06/2024 6:13:44 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: marktwain

Nice article Dean. Very informative. By me we have mostly 2 legged predators. But if it’ll take down a bear it’ll also take down men with evil intent.

CC


14 posted on 07/06/2024 6:14:33 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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"Then he fell onto his stomach, dug his face into the dirt and covered his neck."

Why did he do this? Did he only have one round? Kinda hard to understand why he didn't fire more rounds...

15 posted on 07/06/2024 6:31:32 AM PDT by OKSooner (Oh, the mad fools!)
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To: redfreedom

Having shot bears with rifles, shotguns and a couple different calibers of handguns.

I found buckshot works but I prefer to use it under 15 yards.

Penetration can be a problem when as the distances get further.

At the closer ranges one still has to aim. So why not just carry slugs or even better a rifle.

Handguns work well I prefer heavy for caliber deep penetrating bullets.


16 posted on 07/06/2024 6:41:31 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: OKSooner

Because for decades all the “pro bear experts” told him handguns don’t work. Besides you shouldn’t kill bears.

We have found handguns work very well as long as you are willing to shoot the bear.

Even better if you shoot to kill the bear.


17 posted on 07/06/2024 6:45:11 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: rdcbn1

Don’t know if you ever had to face a bear down but I have had to many times

Warning shots work about 25% of the time in deterring an attack.

The amount of paper work risk of prosecution for shooting a protected animal. Just the general hassle involved with killing one.

Make’s solving the problem without actually shooting the critter is appealing.

Should warning shots always be used no. But they are a viable option. If circumstances allow it to be done safely.


18 posted on 07/06/2024 6:54:21 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: marktwain

Because we all have so many bear encounters.


19 posted on 07/06/2024 6:57:47 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (The Government that got us in this mess is not the Government that can get us out of it.)
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To: marktwain

In Alaska, I used to carry a .44 Mag. I had one occasion to pull it (didn’t fire), and realized then that with the explosion of adrenaline, I wasn’t going to hit a thing. So I bought the shortest legal 12 gauge and alternated slugs and buckshot. Whenever I’m out when bears are out, I have it slung over my shoulder.

I have seen some people carry flare guns.


20 posted on 07/06/2024 7:51:48 AM PDT by ALASKA (There has to be a line we do not cross.)
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