[Gene Eric]

>> sex has been too easy for men

Actually, no. Women always held and still hold the cards.

The issue as I see it concerns delayed social maturity that is at least 8 years behind the strong biological drive to have sex. And factor in the Progressive agenda that:

- teaches girls to hate boys throughout K-12
- teaches young women about “toxic males” in college
- brainwashes young women into thinking that abortion is the ultimate right of independence
- and, that working throughout the fertile years is the financially most secure path

[metmom]

Nonsense.

Men are not hormone driven alley cats.

They are perfectly capable of holding to moral standards as they expect women to.

Laying all the responsibility at women’s feet is lazy and blame shifting.

[grey_whiskers]

Well said, Gene. But is that right, or rite, of independence?

[ckilmer]

the general rule that I’ve heard is that women control whether or not sex happens and men control whether or not a relationship happens.