Revealing poll asks whether ‘The government planned and executed the attacks’…

Revolver ^

[cgbg]

I agree that GWB was genuinely surprised.

As for other senior government officials—each case is different.

https://www.amazon.com/Another-Nineteen-Investigating-Legitimate-Suspects/dp/1489507833

The concept of unified “government” knowledge levels and involvement levels is missing critical details.

My interest in this topic dates back to 2004 when I was in a business meeting with a senior government official. He was very distraught and veered way off topic to complain about “crazy conspiracy theories” that accused “his friend” (W) of involvement in 911.

He said “I have known W all my life and there is no way he would be involved in something like this”.

At the time I had never even read any of these conspiracy theories and had no idea what he was talking about...and I couldn’t figure out who he would be reading that had enough credibility to disturb him.

Nuts on the internet should not have rattled him.

After some research I found out who had him so upset. She was a former senior official of that same government agency—so she had credibility.

Her arguments impressed me—and I began researching further.

Her name—Catherine Austin Fitts.

[cuz1961]

Page 3, From a book written by Tony Seidel: ‘Cold War Spooks’:
“If we had believed the intel, we had in hand in 1941,there would have been no Pearl Harbor!”

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there was a scene in the recent Midway movie that referanced that iirc.

[Wuli]

If you think any government outfit is infallible in their areas of expertise you will always be disappointed and make conspiracy theories about everything that happens.

[DoodleBob]

….and THAT article will garner 100+ enthusiastic posts with zero critical thought.

And there will be one poster calling anyone critical of Sludge, erm Slay News et al, a Deep State plant who wants your son to wear a dress made by Soros while taking a global census for the UN.

[fortes fortuna juvat]

It shows just how much trust in our government has plummeted, reaching depths many of us never imagined possible.
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Wonder if that’s because there’s commonly a connection between trustworthiness and trustfulness.

[cuz1961]

if the shoe fits

/-)

[right way right]

Some time before the 911 attacks there was some thread or maybe just comments on FR by someone who was concerned about a flight school that they were involved in that had some middle eastern types that wanted to fly but seemed unconcerned about learning to land.

They were concerned but their concerns were dismissed…including here by posters, while being speculated as a possible hijacking threat by others.

I searched but could not ever find that thread after the event.

I don't think that it was deleted….just impossible for me to find.

Does anyone here remember that?

Was it a thread or just a comment?….not sure.
I just remember the concern and the concern they had about the non concern.

And…that's absolutely all I have…a vague recollection.

[Dogbert41]

If anyone has been watching all these Senate and Congressional hearings lately where virtually every appointed/nominated official/judge currently is an arrogant lying anti-American freak, then it perfectly explains everything that has occurred since Bush made his New World Order speech.

[353FMG]

Had a friend who was a missionary in China in the 30’s. He claims that they all expected the Pearl Harbor raid.

[GrumpyOldGuy]

I still have not heard what I believe to be a valid argument for what caused Tower 7, which was protected by other buildings, to collapse. And then why all the hate and blacklisting when it’s brought up. Why is it never mentioned? Classic responses when someone doesn’t want to talk about it. Sort of like the right wing conspiracy theorist belittlement about “covid” and the “settled science”… not.

[353FMG]

Honor and money are not interchangeable. Write it in your SOUL!

[nagant]

Sure. Bush 43 set the wheels in motion to get a perceived valid excuse to take out Saddam and his regime for trying to assassinate Bush 41. Is that a bad thing? No. Not without other information:

1. 4,000 Americans died in the 9-11 attack.
2. Bush 41 had beaten down the Saddam regime for attacking Kuwait.
3. However, Saddam attacked Kuwait because Kuwait was thieving Saddam’s crude oil.

[fortes fortuna juvat]

People are very prone to believing fantasies, if you don’t believe me, look how a large number believe that Democrats are benefactors of American society.
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There are tens of millions of people who simply cannot believe that those handsome and beautiful and well-spoken newscasters on Government-controlled media have been trained in the fine art of lying to successfully propagandize them!

[cuz1961]

i watched this vid last night

Doomsday Gun (1994) Frank Langella | Kevin Spacey - True Drama HD

Weapons expert Dr. Gerald Bull is commissioned by Saddam Hussein to build a supergun capable of firing long-range missiles, but Mossad has other ideas. Based on a true story.

1 h 44 m

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63R0M-rvFJI&pp=ygUQc2FkZGFtJ3MgYmlnIGd1bg%3D%3D

this may have had something to do with invading kuwait.

also illustrates the integrity or duplivity of the IC.

[Sarcazmo]

Most of the focus on 9-11 has been “who did it”. It keeps everyone busy, that’s for sure.

I don’t know who did it, but I sure as hell know who lost.

The American people.

[Keyhopper]

I think they knew they were here and we’re up to no good and let them continue. I don’t think TPTB knew it was to be that bad, but hey, we got to get the Patriot act passed.
Just my humble opinion

[Uncle Miltie]

I trust polls of Americans to point to the Truth!

[Uncle Miltie]

I trust polls of Americans to point to the Truth!

[cgbg]

I don’t think there is a “we”.

There are factions—and factions within factions.

Sociopaths do not play by normal rules—and they certainly could not care less about national boundaries.

[roving]

I never did see the plane that hit the Pentagon.