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AP reports that noncitizen voting has become GOP talking point even though it's illegal
Twitchy.com ^ | 5/18/2024 | Brett T

Posted on 05/19/2024 3:50:09 AM PDT by NetAddicted

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To: dixie1202
The once solid red Atlanta suburbs who gave us Newt Gingrich suddenly and flipped after 2012 and I am suspicious.

There is some evidence for such suspicion, at least in the 2020 election.

It has been reported in one of those solid red suburbs there is evidence of a number of visits to the Dominion voting machines by its tech employees or reps to do a number of "services" before, during and after the election.

Such visits might be warranted if the machines were troublesome or as unreliable as a flickering light bulb.

The kicker here is that the chain of custody records mandated by law for such visits, which also required presence of local authorities, that detailed such "services" was either not maintained, has been destroyed or is otherwise unavailable.

(This is per my best recollection and may not be precisely accurate.)

41 posted on 05/19/2024 8:46:27 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Cert's of States allowing noncitizens to vote for fed offices should not be accepted on Jan 6, 2025.)
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To: frog in a pot

OK, I guess it’s about whether the person has to prove their eligibility to vote. AZ requires proof of eligibility but a judge ruled that the Motor Voter Act governs presidential and federal elections and doesn’t require any proof so states can’t require any proof of voter eligibility for federal elections. So AZ uses a form where people who don’t want to provide proof of citizenship to simply sign their names to a statement saying they are US citizens when they request a federal ballot.

https://tucson.com/news/state-regional/government-politics/arizona-presidential-election-2024-2020-citizenship-proof-court-ruling/article_88b82350-534e-11ee-b710-d7c5a62895a8.html

It seems like the federal law has a loophole for people who think they are citizens to vote. Frog in a pot, what part of that federal law is it that you believe closes that loophole?

Thing is, even if there is a provision to punish those who vote after falsely swearing that they are US citizens, by then the damage is done, unless those votes are kept as provisional votes to be counted only AFTER citizenship is proven.

Did the judge rule that HAVA (Help America Vote Act) means that everybody who the federal law says has to be allowed to vote (even those who haven’t proven citizenship) also have to have their votes necessarily counted rather than cast as provisional votes?


42 posted on 05/19/2024 8:47:14 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: FreedBird

Even if 2 million newcomers were given voting privileges I doubt they’d vote for Biden. They can see a fool coming and don’t want the government dream for life.


43 posted on 05/19/2024 9:41:21 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: NetAddicted

just who is registering the illegals to vote is the question


44 posted on 05/19/2024 12:34:52 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: markman46

Who is registering them?
The democrats themselves in their canvassing drives, but also their allies, like the SEIU union, the NEA, etc.


45 posted on 05/19/2024 2:56:07 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: butterdezillion
I guess it’s about whether the person has to prove their eligibility to vote.
Bingo.

Did the judge rule that...everybody who the federal law says has to be allowed to vote (even those who haven’t proven citizenship) also have to have their votes necessarily counted...?

Apparently. This Clinton-nominated judge is arguing the fed act presents the only test a registering voter has to pass. That test is the bare assertion under penalty of perjury as to being a citizen. At the moment, she may be correct.

In 2004, Arizona passed Prop 200, which required voters to provide proof of citizenship when registering to vote or casting a ballot. It reached the USSC which held the NVRA preempts voter registration requirements beyond the bare assertion. It held in part that to allow states to impose additional requirements would allow them to reject voter registrations applicants who met the federal requirements to vote, which would defeat the purpose of the Act. (Alioto and Thomas dissented.)

The result seems to fly in the face of the long-standing view the Constitution grants the power to decide voter qualifications in federal elections to the states. Fortunately, Arizona is well aware of this 10+ year old USSC holding and this case is yet proceeding.

The Congress, however, would be entirely correct at the next Jan 6 Joint Session to conclude on the basis of current events (open borders + the active importation of immigrants) that ignoring the well-established rule by both state and federal governments prohibiting noncitizen voting for fed offices is contrary to common sense. Perhaps most importantly it dramatically increases the risk to national security.

Among other devices, noncitizen voting is just one, the Congress could ask each State to submit the means by which it tested each registrant's assertion.

46 posted on 05/19/2024 4:48:25 PM PDT by frog in a pot (Cert's of States allowing noncitizens to vote for fed offices should not be accepted on Jan 6, 2025.)
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To: NetAddicted

The fix is in.


47 posted on 05/19/2024 4:53:21 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Labyrinthos

Then why did you bother to read this? Christina Pushaw’s tweet offered the very important info that WaPoop is now writing that illegals are voting in our elections. Geragasnaggit!


48 posted on 05/19/2024 10:27:28 PM PDT by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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To: NetAddicted

Illegal doesn’t matter...they are still doing it, with the blessings of dimocrats.


49 posted on 05/19/2024 10:31:10 PM PDT by rottndog (What comes after America?)
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To: Betty Jane

I reread the title, and, by George, you’re correct. Frigging American Pravda!


50 posted on 05/19/2024 10:37:02 PM PDT by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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To: cnsmom

In the long run, many of those illegals will probably vote Democrat. Our children and grandchildren, will not live in the same America.


51 posted on 05/20/2024 4:40:37 AM PDT by FreedBird (id)
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To: NetAddicted

It’s illegal? Since when has that stopped democrats,and if GodForbid Biden gets re-elected guess what will be one of his objectives? Giving illegals the right to vote


52 posted on 05/20/2024 5:01:11 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Labyrinthos

The Border Patrol was supposed to protect our border until the Biden gang “re-imagined” it. Another “GOP talking point.”


53 posted on 05/21/2024 12:07:38 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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