FL: Body Cam Shows Police Shoot Armed Man in His Home

AmmoLand ^ | May 13, 2024 | Dean Weingarten

[marktwain]

Body cameras are getting better and better. The resolution on this one shows Roger Fortson being killed by the deputy Sheriff.

[marktwain]

Link to video on Rumble.

Link to YouTube video:

[Pontiac]

Seems like a cop on an adrenaline high reacted to the sight of a gun.

Too bad that there is not money for simulation training cops for these situations.

[Mark17]

I wonder if a huge lawsuit is in the future?

[digger48]

With Ben Crump involved?

That’s the only reason he ever gets near things like this

[LuigiBonnafini]

[shotgun]

Shoot/Don’t Shoot training was provided by the City’s insurance carrier in the city where I was the City Manager. It was mandatory as part of their coverage.

[Pontiac]

Fortson’s family has hired controversial lawyer Ben Crump. Crump has made statements the shooting was at the wrong apartment, and Fortson was shot as he walked away from the door, and deputies burst into the apartment.

Yep.

[PubliusMM]

Poor training on several counts.
First, wait for backup. The deputy had already requested backup, but chose to move ahead without waiting.
Second, no threat assessment. Did the deputy already have his own gun drawn? It doesn’t appear so.
Third, five shots, three of them after the subject was down? I understand the stress (former LEO, myself), but...

I don’t think looks good for the deputy.

[Pontiac]

How frequent was the retraining?

One and done is not effective.

[marktwain]

An outside agency is doing the investigation.

Outside agency investigation is mandated in Florida.

[rarestia]

Woo. That’s a tough one. Cop had his weapon drawn. Door opened. Suspect had the gun in his hand but down at his side. Is there a presumption of guilt if you open the door with a gun? It was less than 2 seconds and the deputy opened fire. I’m not trained for this sort of thing, but that seems exceptionally short to make an assessment and decide to use lethal force. Any tac training I’ve taken you issue verbal commands until the threat is imminent. I guess a weapon at the side is imminent?

[DEPcom]

I believe this to be the same Sheriff's department that open fire because of an acorn.

Florida deputy mistakes falling acorn for gunshot, fires into patrol car with Black man inside

I'm not sure if it was the same deputy, but if it was, I would recommend firing the Sheriff and bringing in someone who can properly retrain the force.

I had an encounter with an off-duty sheriff's deputy in my area. He was very angry and upset, and he even broke down crying while trying to explain his frustration. I'm relieved he wasn't carrying a weapon while off duty. It seems like the current generation of deputies behave like man-children who grew up sitting in front of game consoles. Our country is in serious trouble.

[Openurmind]

“Is there a presumption of guilt if you open the door with a gun?”

YES... ABSOLUTELY... Anything that EVEN LOOKS LIKE A GUN in your hand is guilty and an immediate death sentence.

[Red Badger]

This happened down the street from my house................

[Red Badger]

This deputy is in deep doo-doo..................

[Red Badger]

This is the same Sheriff’s Department that a deputy unloaded his weapon into his cruiser with prisoner inside because he heard an acorn fall on the hood and thought it was gunfire................. That deputy was fired.............

[OldHarbor]

Suspect ? Suspected of what ? Donut Cop says: Die !!

[TheDon]

This is a good example of why you shouldn’t have a firearm in your hands or even visible when opening the door for law enforcement.

[ansel12]

“””””Door opened. Suspect had the gun in his hand but down at his side. Is there a presumption of guilt if you open the door with a gun? It was less than 2 seconds and the deputy opened fire. I’m not trained for this sort of thing, but that seems exceptionally short to make an assessment and decide to use lethal force.”””””

In that situation the burden of risk is on the cop knocking on a door, not the homeowner.

Cops have to have it explained to them that they have to endure risk in the job, they cannot just kill any and all possible risks that they see during their shifts or when they walk into our homes and at our backyard BBQs.