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North Korea vs South Korea (vanity)
www.freerepublic.com ^ | 1 March 2024 | impimp

Posted on 03/01/2024 12:01:08 PM PST by impimp

Tucker Carlson, in his interview with Lex Friedman, posed the question - if there are substantially more people in North Korea versus South Korea in 100 years, then which country is better? This question was posed based on the context that South Koreans have a low birth rate.


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KEYWORDS: demographics; fakenews; moronic; tucker; tuckerthesucker; vanity
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To: impimp

female education?

Dude, The Handmaid’s Tale is fictional, not a utopian guide.


21 posted on 03/01/2024 1:46:26 PM PST by Farmerbob
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To: Farmerbob

if you think subsidized advanced female education is good for society then I suggest that you are victim of a mind virus


22 posted on 03/01/2024 1:57:17 PM PST by impimp ( )
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To: impimp

More often it dulls it.


23 posted on 03/01/2024 2:11:08 PM PST by x
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To: x

the effects of affluence are often worse for the intellect…if not intellect then wisdom


24 posted on 03/01/2024 2:27:02 PM PST by impimp ( )
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To: impimp
1.82 births per woman (2020)

0.84 births per woman (2020)

So in three generations, North Korea will be able to conquer South Korea.

25 posted on 03/01/2024 2:30:26 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: impimp

That’s just dumb.


26 posted on 03/01/2024 6:50:36 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: impimp

Getting shot in the head for being Christian, or for trying to leave, is more immediate, don’t you think?

The quality of a country us determined by how many people would flee it if they didn’t have fences, minefields and machine gun nests to keep them inside.
And, by how many people who would live there if they could.
Take you, for example... you are free to leave your country and apply for admission into North Korea. No one is stopping you but the weakness of your convictions.

And, notice you aren’t posting on a North Korean website.


27 posted on 03/01/2024 6:54:53 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: impimp

“Survival of the fittest” is not Godly in any way...quite the opposite.


28 posted on 03/01/2024 7:13:35 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: impimp

What kind of nonsense is that? As long as you have a few million people, your “genetic survival” will do just fine unless you get yourself very thoroughly nuked.

BTW, genetic survival does NOT mean “no change” and not even “no hybridization”. Dinosaurs live on — as birds.

(My Dad did a lot of work in genetics, BTW.)

I’d also add that humans’ version of “success” is somewhat different than animals. Depending on the animal. Cats are definitely into comfort. ;-)


29 posted on 03/01/2024 7:49:18 PM PST by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Nah. By then SK will have 20 million super-killer robots of various types in its military.

(Just be sure to keep them on the “right” side!)


30 posted on 03/01/2024 7:57:22 PM PST by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: impimp

“advanced female education” is fine. What matters is what is taught.


31 posted on 03/01/2024 8:00:27 PM PST by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: piasa

I would surely choose to live in South Korea over North Korea because I would bring my views and abilities with me. But I would rather be a randomly selected North Korean over a randomly selected South Korean because the average South Korean has a death wish.


32 posted on 03/02/2024 1:05:28 AM PST by impimp ( )
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To: piasa

You are right that survival of the fittest isn’t a Christian tenant and is not godly. Might point is that South Korea is a failure in terms of Darwinism AND South Korea is a failure in terms of going forth an multiplying, which is Godly.


33 posted on 03/02/2024 1:08:23 AM PST by impimp ( )
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To: Paul R.

Subsidized advanced female education delays reproduction and kills a society.


34 posted on 03/02/2024 1:09:21 AM PST by impimp ( )
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To: impimp
At this time I would rather be a random North Korean than a random South Korean.

Then if serious, you are ignorant of what being a random North Korean means.

35 posted on 03/02/2024 5:10:58 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: impimp
read Tucker Carlson’s comments in the original post…a nation that chooses to die is not a good nation…South Korea has chosen death due to a rot in its culture that is beyond the cultural rot seen anywhere else on this planet.

Perhaps being 6 minutes from destruction by irrational cult leaders and their demi-god has something to do with that, but contraception -unBiblical as it is - becomes the kiss of death for cultures.

36 posted on 03/02/2024 5:14:22 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: impimp
Any societal structure that leads to a 0.7 TFR, no matter how many comforts it has, is a rot. I am asking my FRiends to think if comforts are more important that genetic survival. No matter how superficially benign South Korea appears it has fundamentally rejected God’s commandment to go forth and multiply. And it has fundamentally rejected Darwin and the survival of the fittest.

Indeed, but advocating for living in a prison camp country due to a claimed, unverified birth rate to provide more worshipers and canon fodder for a demoniacal dictatorial cult leader which imprisons and or execute s those who manifest their faith or any oppose him is hardly a strong argument.

If birth rate is your criteria, there are other options, but the only safe place to be is where God would have you to be as a born again evangelical:


37 posted on 03/02/2024 5:31:30 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: piasa; impimp
[to impimp]Getting shot in the head for being Christian, or for trying to leave, is more immediate, don’t you think? The quality of a country us determined by how many people would flee it if they didn’t have fences, minefields and machine gun nests to keep them inside. And, by how many people who would live there if they could.Take you, for example... you are free to leave your country and apply for admission into North Korea. No one is stopping you but the weakness of your convictions. And, notice you aren’t posting on a North Korean website.

And while abortion and IUD implants have been banned, yet the prison camp dictatorial suppression and poverty is itself a form of birth control. And an alleged pro-life higher birth rate - which is only relatively recent and subject to change - does not mean that abortion and contraception is not practiced.

But maybe darkness can be excused as being in order to encourage sexual relations.


38 posted on 03/02/2024 5:58:22 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: impimp
Subsidized advanced female education delays reproduction and kills a society.

True. As does: The Kippumjo (Korean: 기쁨조; translated as Pleasure Squad, Pleasure Brigade, or Pleasure Group), sometimes spelled Kippeumjo (also Gippumjo or Gippeumjo), is a collection of groups of approximately 2,000 women and girls reportedly maintained by the leader of North Korea for the purpose of providing entertainment, including that of a sexual nature, for high-ranking Workers' Party of Korea (WPK) officials and their families, as well as, occasionally, distinguished guests.

Kippumjo is briefly discussed in the 2009 book Nothing to Envy by US journalist Barbara Demick. The book is based on interviews with North Korean defectors. According to Demick, girls from throughout the country were recruited to be Kippumjo members according to government criteria.[12] Suki Kim, a Korean American journalist who has lived undercover in North Korea, wrote in 2014 that one of the criteria was that they had to be virgins.[13] In Bradley K. Martin's 2004 book he says that schools recommended suitable teenage girls to recruiters, with their parents receiving enhanced status and money.[4] Once recruited, members of the Kippumjo underwent extensive training, sometimes abroad, according to Mi-Hyang.[1]

Martin adds that women retired from Kippumjo at 22 and married members of the country's elite.[4] In the 2014 memoir of defector Jang Jin-sung, Dear Leader: Poet, Spy, Escapee – A Look Inside North Korea, Jang writes of the Kippumjo during the time of Kim Jong Il's rule that: "Most of them go into arranged marriages with personal guards or senior cadres cleared to work in foreign affairs. Some even go on to become cadres themselves."[1] Britain's Daily Telegraph newspaper reported in 2015 that many Kippumjo members were retired in their 20s and married military officers who were seeking wives.[5] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kippumjo

39 posted on 03/02/2024 6:03:06 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: impimp
Subsidized advanced female education delays reproduction and kills a society.

True. As does:

In North Korea, women experience extreme oppression from men who are in positions of official authority. This can be even worse for women in the military. Women in North Korea are required to serve in the military, but this was not always the case. According to Daily NK, in 2015, North Korea made military service mandatory for women between the ages of 17 and 20. Women are required to serve until the age of 23.[1] Some of the horrific treatment and conditions women face in the military include sexual assault, brutal physical punishments, forced abortions, lack of feminine hygiene products, and the use of threats to shame and silence women. This essay describes these conditions in greater detail by recounting the testimonies of several women who served in North Korea’s military, formally known as the Korean People’s Army (KPA). - https://www.nkhiddengulag.org/blog/the-horrors-of-being-a-woman-in-the-north-korean-military

In an interview with the BBC, Lee So-Yeon, a former KPA soldier, describes the conditions she faced. To begin with, patriarchal ideology was emphasized in the military. In addition to basic training, women had to do household chores such as cooking and cleaning. Men were exempt from such chores. With inadequate food and stressful training, Lee explains that women would stop having periods, and if they did have them, they would have to reuse sanitary pads and wash them when the men were not looking. She also recalls that women could rarely shower due to the lack of hot water. They had to use a hose to shower, and at times frogs and snakes would come out of the hose.[2] Lee and her fellow soldiers were not given the necessities for proper hygiene. Sexual assault and rape were also prevalent - https://www.nkhiddengulag.org/blog/the-horrors-of-being-a-woman-in-the-north-korean-military

40 posted on 03/02/2024 6:07:37 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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