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The Fall of Avdeevka
Various | 2/15/24 | Me

Posted on 02/15/2024 6:52:23 PM PST by EnderWiggin1970

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To: packagingguy

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/02/what-are-they-51st-state-congressman-questions-why/


61 posted on 02/16/2024 7:41:39 AM PST by dforest
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To: BenLurkin; Srednik; pierrem15; MinorityRepublican; tlozo; Widget Jr; Monterrosa-24; Wuli; lodi90; ..

Avdeevka is a variant spelling of Avdiivka. This town has been a major focus of Russian attack as a potentiel entry point further into Ukraine territory. Russia has been attacking it intently as they did last year at Bakhmut, where the Wagner forces lost so many men that their founder and former Putin friend, Prigozhin, got mad and attacked Moscow. Putin’s goal is to have this attack completed in time to list it as a great victory on Feb. 24th when he celebrates the second anniversary of his great NOT WAR on Ukraine.

Having seen all the support Putin and Russsia have been receiving here on FR lately, I begin to wonder to what extent Putin/Russia may have been influencing people within our own Congress. After all it takes a lot of money to win a political campaign. See below to learn about the source and scope of Putin’s grand plan to reconstitute the old Soviet Nation as he requires school children in Russia to chant, “Glory to the Soviet Nation.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics


62 posted on 02/16/2024 9:37:16 AM PST by gleeaikin ( Question authority.)
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I begin to wonder to what extent Putin/Russia may have been influencing people within our own Congress.

There are, I think, at least some Russian trolls working here.

But what I've seen is a slow progression where animosity toward our current filthy regime is affecting the judgment of many on FR.

Like a broken clock, it is possible for the regime to be right about something twice a day, if they think it's in their best interests.

But many here are obsessed with automatically opposing anything the "Biden" junta does to the point that they're willing to support foreign enemies simply to score domestic political points, just like Democrats and Hanoi Jane. Of course that's also always been the case with paleocons, who drank deeply from hippy well of libertarian nonsense in the 60s. As Rand noted, they're mainly anti-American right-wing hippies.

The partisanship and the libertarian foreign policy kookery all makes many here willing to believe any conspiracy theory nonsense coming from paleocons or Russian trolls.

63 posted on 02/16/2024 9:53:59 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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You still haven't taken Avdiivka

????

64 posted on 02/16/2024 10:20:31 AM PST by kiryandil (Free Zaluzhny!)
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My understanding is that Russian forces took the pocket in which the Zenith defense works were located, but that fighting for the city is still ongoing.

Two Russian flags were raised: one in the Zenith pocket to the SSW and another at the Donetsk filtration plant NW of the city center.

65 posted on 02/16/2024 10:53:42 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: gleeaikin

I begin to wonder to what extent Putin/Russia may have been influencing people within our own Congress.


A large part of influence seems to have found a home in the House GOP, which is willing to grant Moscovia Ukraine and any other part of Europe it cares to take. Which is why those people are not only stupid, but clowns to boot. Its so sickening to me having lived through the entire Cold War and having served on the front lines later in life, I almost want to vote Dem.


66 posted on 02/16/2024 11:23:01 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: tlozo

I’m 53, and remember it perfectly well as something that was part of the news reporting. Hiding behind “it’s not in a treaty” is pathetic. All your side is doing is ensuring NO ONE will ever trust you liars again.


67 posted on 02/16/2024 9:34:59 PM PST by EnderWiggin1970
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To: pierrem15; deks; tlozo; MinorityRepublican; BenLurkin; Srednik; PIF; Monterrosa-24; lodi90; ...

Here is a recent report I saw about the Avdiivka situation. The Video runs about 6 minutes. I have not analyzed it yet but wanted to get it out before everyone is asleep, which I will be soon.

16 Feb: Ukrainian Forces BREAK THROUGH THE ENCIRCLEMENT. | War in Ukraine Explained
Reporting from Ukraine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fkS4k8bKe4

I am Ukrainian. My country has been invaded by Russia. In this video, I will tell you what happened on the seven-hundred-twenty-third day of the war. Day 723: Feb 16

Today, there are a lot of updates from the Avdiivka direction.

After Ukrainian reinforcements arrived in Avdiivka, many military analysts anticipated a rapid counterattack. The first scenario was a massive flank attack that was meant to slice off the Russian vanguard, the second scenario was to force Russians to overstretch their forces along the contact line, and the last one was the unblocking operation combined with a withdrawal.

The Ukrainian High Command evaluated the situation and refused to conduct large-scale counteroffensive operations for four main reasons. The first reason was the conservation of manpower, as a deep penetration would require risking the lives of thousands of soldiers. The second reason was the lack of artillery shells – Ukrainians did not even have enough shells to hold the defense, so conducting a large-scale flank offensive would cost a lot of lives. The third reason was the fact that Russians have reinforced the Avdiivka Group. If you still remember, at the start of the offensive operation four months ago in October, Russians allocated forty thousand troops. According to the Tavriisk Group of Forces Spokesman, Russian forces relocated tens of thousands of troops from other directions to sustain the offensive operation, and right now, Russian forces have about fifty thousand troops here. The last reason is the weather conditions. Attacking from the north or even along the entire contact line would mean fighting in the fields, which have become increasingly hard to cross. That is why the Ukrainian High Command decided to conduct an unblocking operation combined with a withdrawal. The decision was not received positively by the Ukrainian soldiers who were hoping to save Avdiivka, as many of them had fought here since day one, however, it was still the right decision.

The first step of the operation involved a massive counterattack in the central part of Avdiivka. As I alluded to in my previous report, the newly arrived Ukrainian fighters from the third assault brigade attacked Russian forces south of the railways with Max-Pro armored vehicles with machine guns and temporarily pushed Russians back by around one hundred fifty meters. By taking upon themselves the Russian vanguard, Ukrainians alleviated the pressure on many critical zones and started the process of withdrawal.

The first group of Ukrainian forces that received the order to withdraw was the one that held defense at the water filtration station. As you can see, they were very far from the main Ukrainian positions and were facing attacks from three sides. Before the Ukrainian High Command decided to withdraw, it was beneficial for Ukrainians to hold such positions because they stretched the front line and made it harder for Russians to advance. The second group of Ukrainians to withdraw was the one holding an extensive trench network in the vineyards. The last two groups to withdraw were holding virtually an all-round defense on the former air defense base and fortifications under the bridge. The situation here was extremely dire, the order to withdraw was given too late, so Ukrainians incurred losses during withdrawal and had to leave six wounded soldiers on the base. Ukrainian Tavriisk Group of Forces Commander admitted that several Ukrainians were taken captive.

According to some Russian sources, there are two thousand Ukrainians in the southern part, while according to others, there are up to three thousand troops. Russian analysts also claimed that up to thirty percent of Ukrainian forces have already been evacuated. Russian sources claimed that, in total, there are no more than eight thousand Ukrainians in the Avdiivka direction. Given that there are fifty thousand Russians in the same area, Russians outnumber Ukrainians six to one.

After the Ukrainian reinforcements conducted a successful counterattack, the Russians intensified their assaults even more. A Ukrainian fighter from the twenty-fourth battalion reported that Russians now use assault groups consisting of up to fifty soldiers, which they have not seen even during the peak heat of the Battle for Bakhmut. This, combined with the devastating Russian artillery and airstrikes, allowed Russians to regain control over the highway and even move beyond it into the fields. The main goals of the Russian forces are to move towards the village of Lastochkine and...


68 posted on 02/16/2024 11:41:13 PM PST by gleeaikin ( Question authority.)
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To: Srednik

“Vladolf Putler is the real neo-Nazi. The Azov Brigade is to be honored for protecting the territorial integrity of Ukraine.”

Insightful. Thank you for your comment.


69 posted on 02/17/2024 12:16:22 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ )
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