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Well that's a surprise! Trump's plan would actually INCREASE support to Ukraine by forcing NATO members to step up and match the U.S. contributions.

I actually agree with this position.

Many head's exploding this morning!

1 posted on 02/02/2024 5:30:46 AM PST by Timber Rattler
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Trump is just smart enough to know NATO will force a peace agreement, any peace agreement, before they spend more money on Uke.


2 posted on 02/02/2024 5:36:15 AM PST by circlecity
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I am among Trump’s biggest supporters here on FR, but if there’s a chance in hell that he would let the U.S. taxpayer continue to subsidize Ukraine’s civilian functions and fund pensions for the people in that dump, then even I won’t vote for him.
3 posted on 02/02/2024 5:37:57 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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It’s simple for me. If TRUMP, felt he needed more funding to handle Ukraine I’d be much more positive about it because I know his intentions. He’d use it not to prolong the war but to resolve it. Trump won’t ask for 100b for Ukraine while saying the border just cant be secured. That is just one example but it’s sumed up nicely by saying he’s America First.


4 posted on 02/02/2024 5:39:33 AM PST by wiseprince (Me)
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Also a plus.....Trump didnt mention greedy, money-grubber Zelensky in the deal.


5 posted on 02/02/2024 5:42:24 AM PST by Liz (Matthew 11.28-30: Come to me, all you who are weary and heavy laden, and I will give you strength.)
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ROFLOL

Think about it people. How are you going to get the Russians and Putin to the negotiating table to end the war they started. Talking nice to them? Trump is setting up the great of massive funding, and you can bet massive air power transfer, so that Putin and the Kremlin will be more likely to end the war.

Biden wants perpetual war, watching Ukrainian and Russians die, as long as the US weapon manufacturers are satisfied. Trump says he wants to end the war, he gets how to do that.


6 posted on 02/02/2024 5:44:10 AM PST by Pete Dovgan
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This is quite consistent with Trump’s position ever since the invasion. It comes as no surprise to anyone who has been paying attention. He has given an interview saying he told Putin there would be “hell to pay” if he invaded Ukraine.


7 posted on 02/02/2024 5:55:02 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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Trump’s latest is very disappointing to me.

I take it that he now supports endless war in Ukraine, or at a minimum he is waffling on getting us out of there.

And bragging about how much we have donated to NATO is not clear and direct either.

This election is getting uglier by the day.


8 posted on 02/02/2024 6:01:51 AM PST by detch (")
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Is the Ukraine war our war? No, hell no.

Should we be supporting Uke Nazi’s? No, absolutely not.

But, is Russia a potential enemy? That is a probability. The probability is that the globalists have made them an enemy, and like any cornered rat will come out fighting.

I’m thinking Trump has deeper insight on what’s going on and simply would not just pull the plug on the Uke’s. He realizes this is a Euro war and those pinheads need to pony up and pay their fair share.

The Afghan pullout was a complete disaster. I do not think Trump wants to be in the same boat the Biden regime is on regarding ending a war.

And the Uke’s need to be purged of their Nazi elements.


10 posted on 02/02/2024 6:04:37 AM PST by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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NATO countries should pay their fair share! Stop the presses! From Day One this has been a central tenet of MAGA! At some point I’m sure you flirted with the MAGA and America First fads. Surely you remember. Give us the direct quote where Trump says anything about funding the proxy war. You’ve got to find better material.

“Trump, at a rally, told the audience that the US has been bearing a disproportionate portion of the cost and he would pressure European governments to increase their own contributions to the same level as the United States.”

The article takes this statement from any Trump speech since 2015 and it’s off to the races.


11 posted on 02/02/2024 6:07:08 AM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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Agree with circlecity that it is much more a feint to shock NATO into a full-fledged TrumpII Summit, maybe in Orban's Hungary or perhaps Poland for the optics.

"We're watching a holocaust. We're watching something that I've never seen before. [Russia] is blowing up buildings, with children, with women, with professionals, with people, just people, they're blowing up indiscriminately. They're just shooting massive missiles and rockets into these buildings and everybody is dying."

"The numbers are far worse than what you're seeing on television. I don't know if they [are] keeping them down. When you see buildings being blown up and then they say one person died? Give me a break. Many people are dying and we're allowing this to happen."

"They have to stop it and they have to stop it now, but they don't respect the United States, and the United States is not doing anything about it. This is a holocaust, this is a horrible thing that's happening and you see it on television every night."



13 posted on 02/02/2024 6:12:17 AM PST by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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War will be over and hohostan/ucrayon will be history by June or July. Nobody will remember anything about it by November.


15 posted on 02/02/2024 6:13:21 AM PST by ganeemead (everything )
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What happened to “I will end the war in 24 hours”????


16 posted on 02/02/2024 6:14:47 AM PST by Golden Eagle (It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them that they've been fooled.)
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22 posted on 02/02/2024 6:20:49 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To little to late. Welfare cash doesn’t solve their decimated manpower issue nor their shortage of weapons. The West simply doesn’t have the unlimited resources nor manufacturing base like the Federation of Russia…..not to mention the growing resentment of flushing $$$ Billions of taxpayers money down the filthy Ukrainian toilet.


25 posted on 02/02/2024 6:32:14 AM PST by delta7
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Trump will end the War. That’s the bottom line.


26 posted on 02/02/2024 6:32:42 AM PST by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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Well that's a surprise! Trump's plan would actually INCREASE support to Ukraine by forcing NATO members to step up and match the U.S. contributions.

LOL! Trumpers will flip their opinion as soon as they read this, just as they've done countless other times.

"WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN IN FAVOR FOR INCREASED SPENDING IN UKRAINE!"

4D Chess. LOL! What a bunch of chumps.

31 posted on 02/02/2024 6:45:13 AM PST by Drew68 (Never forget that every person responsible for the nation's COVID policies totally got away with it.)
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Hopium is a helluva drug. Basically Trump is betting on the Eurotrash refusing to pay for their own defense like they always do.


36 posted on 02/02/2024 6:57:18 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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How is this a new position or a surprise ? It’s essentially the same reply he gave to the questionnaire Tucker Carlson sent to all potential GOP candidates when he was still at Fox.


40 posted on 02/02/2024 7:11:51 AM PST by chickenlips (Neuter your politicians)
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He was talking about Europe paying their fare share of Ukraine and NATO. He’s also the guy who said he would end the war in 24 hrs.


52 posted on 02/02/2024 7:41:56 AM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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I’m good with it. We need to stop Russia, but Trump is right that Europe should up their funding. They actually are increasing their funding but they are still behind us.


56 posted on 02/02/2024 7:51:58 AM PST by Brilliant
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