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To: Timber Rattler

Is the Ukraine war our war? No, hell no.

Should we be supporting Uke Nazi’s? No, absolutely not.

But, is Russia a potential enemy? That is a probability. The probability is that the globalists have made them an enemy, and like any cornered rat will come out fighting.

I’m thinking Trump has deeper insight on what’s going on and simply would not just pull the plug on the Uke’s. He realizes this is a Euro war and those pinheads need to pony up and pay their fair share.

The Afghan pullout was a complete disaster. I do not think Trump wants to be in the same boat the Biden regime is on regarding ending a war.

And the Uke’s need to be purged of their Nazi elements.


10 posted on 02/02/2024 6:04:37 AM PST by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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To: redfreedom; Timber Rattler; MalPearce; BroJoeK

I don’t know if it is Trump influence or other forces, but EU has just ponied up to spending more than $50 billion on Ukraine defense. EVen Putin’s buddy Orban has decided to go along with this major commitment. Apparently he was told EU or Putin, make your choice. Does this mean he now believes Putin is going to fail?


77 posted on 02/03/2024 1:36:29 PM PST by gleeaikin ( Question authority.)
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To: redfreedom; Timber Rattler; MalPearce; gleeaikin
redfreedom: "Is the Ukraine war our war? No, hell no."

1994 Budapest -- Clinton, Yeltsin & Kravchuk

Yes, it is, since the 1994 Budapest Memorandum in which the US and UK promised to support Ukraine's sovereignty in exchange for Ukraine giving up its nukes to Russia.
Unfortunately, the Budapest Agreement is not iron-clad since, as Slick Willy said in another context,

But it's not just a scrap of paper, either, so we do have an obligation to support Ukraine against Russian invasions.

redfreedom: "Should we be supporting Uke Nazi’s?
No, absolutely not."

Those words are insane nonsense -- 100% pure Russian propaganda directly from the information sewer pipes of the Kremlin's Ministry for Agitation and Propaganda.
The whole idea of "Ukrainian Nazis" is complete & utter BS.
No sane person should be repeating it.

redfreedom: "But, is Russia a potential enemy?
That is a probability.
The probability is that the globalists have made them an enemy, and like any cornered rat will come out fighting."

And yet again with the Russian propaganda nonsense?
The truth is that Vlad the Invader's threats and invasions against his neighbors have nothing to do with "globalists" or Russia feeling like a "cornered rat"
It's the opposite -- it's Vlad the Invader reestablishing his vision of "Russkiy Mir", the Old Tsarist & Soviet Empires, by threatening and invading his neighbors, including:

Russian threats to neighbors since 1991:

  1. Azerbaijan (1990–1994);[1][2]
  2. Moldova (1992–present)
  3. Georgia (2004–present)
  4. Lithuania (2006)
  5. Estonia (2006–2007)
  6. Belarus (2007)
  7. Syria (2015–present)
  8. Turkey (2015–2016)
  9. Kazakhstan (2021–2022)[3] and
  10. Armenia (2022) [4] amongst others.[5]
redfreedom: "I’m thinking Trump has deeper insight on what’s going on and simply would not just pull the plug on the Uke’s.
He realizes this is a Euro war and those pinheads need to pony up and pay their fair share.
The Afghan pullout was a complete disaster.
I do not think Trump wants to be in the same boat the Biden regime is on regarding ending a war."

All that is perfectly fine.
I agree that Trump will not simply walk away from Ukraine, the way Biden skedaddled disgracefully from Afghanistan.
Whether Trump can make a peace-deal in Ukraine is as yet unknown.

redfreedom: "And the Uke’s need to be purged of their Nazi elements."

And yet again with the Russian BS propaganda?
Seriously, where does this nonsense come from?

79 posted on 02/05/2024 4:08:14 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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