Posted on 02/02/2024 5:30:46 AM PST by Timber Rattler
Well, this was a bit unexpected, given what Trump supporters have been implying about what Trump’s Ukraine policy would be.
Far from cutting off funds or ending the war (the latter of which Trump has indeed promised), Trump, at a rally, told the audience that the US has been bearing a disproportionate portion of the cost and he would pressure European governments to increase their own contributions to the same level as the United States.
Given that this is Trump, I wouldn’t call this an iron-clad-take-it-to-the-bank promise to keep pouring billions of dollars into Ukraine’s war coffers, but it does suggest that the view that both Trump supporters and his opponents have of him are grossly oversimplified.
The Left keeps talking as if Trump would have handed Ukraine over to Putin, even though Putin invaded Ukraine twice now–under Obama and then Biden. He left the country alone when Trump was president, and Trump was the only president who sent Ukraine arms until the 2nd war began.
Trump’s supporters tend to oppose funding Ukraine, but Trump here suggests that his problem with funding Ukraine is that only the US is doing so, with small token contributions from European states. As with NATO–an organization he criticized but kept funding–he talks very tough to the Europeans but shows no signs of abandoning American commitments.
(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...
“I will end the war in 24 hours” ring a bell?
This is Hot Air. They’re spreading a lot of Ukropium all over what Trump said.
I listened to the clip. He is complaining that we’ve sunk $200B into Ukraine and the Europeans have only put in $20B combined. I’ve heard him say this on several occasions.
He plans to get a negotiated peace deal and end this thing. He’s said that several times too, but Hot Air takes the focus off of that.
We sure as hell know your boy is all for the war. He even flip flopped on it when asked directly.
DeSantis didn’t flip flop, THIS is a flip flop.
“ The Kiel Institute is an independent foundation under public law of the federal state of Schleswig-Holstein.
As such it is basically funded by the German Federal Government and the state of Schleswig-Holstein.
The Board of Governors advises and decides on financial and fundamental matters concerning the Kiel Institute. Head of the Board is the acting State Secretary of the Ministry of Education, Science and Cultural Affairs of Schleswig Holstein.
Ties to every international lib group too…
He is quite wrong on the spending. He isnt a spreadsheet guy, so I dont hold it against him. I, however, am a spreadsheet guy.
I was personally sold Excel by Bill Gates in 1988 at the Sacramento PC Users Group. He did, at one time, work for a living.
And the relevant spreadsheet is at the Kiel Institute.
https://www.ifw-kiel.de/publications/ukraine-support-tracker-data-20758/
Some summarized info -
https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/
If you reject this sort of data, from this sort of source, on these grounds, then you have no data at all, for anything. Even weather reports.
Reading political data and pretending it is true is foolish.
It is a propaganda front, meant to shape public opinion.
I wish you showed the same concern for the additional hundreds of billions being pi$$ed away in Ukraine on our grandkids’ tab as you do for my foot.
Your foot is, I presume, real. You might be a double amputee of course, but I think it unlikely.
I do doubt the existence of your grandkids however.
You doubt the existence of my grandkids?! You’re a bit of a dullard, aren’t you? Yeah, we sixty eight year olds have this conspiracy to take over by lying about grandchildren. That’s about enough of your silliness.
He was talking about Europe paying their fare share of Ukraine and NATO. He’s also the guy who said he would end the war in 24 hrs.
It certainly doesnt sound like you do. You have said nothing about yourself, your kids, your career, your education, your interests, etc.
A rather “blank” person, really.
Or were you also telling fibs about the anvils?
Understood. I was responding to what the poster had said, not the original article (which I only skimmed).
That’s not really the point. 😏
I’m good with it. We need to stop Russia, but Trump is right that Europe should up their funding. They actually are increasing their funding but they are still behind us.
“War will be over and hohostan/ucrayon will be history by June or July. Nobody will remember anything about it by November.”
Very true, especially considering today’s progress towards peace in Avdeyevka, with the Russians now in the city from 2 directions.
Crazy newbies like you -- "Hi I'm the guy who has posted the word 'Zeeper' 234 times as my contribution to FreeRepublic!" -- are the reason there aren't FR meet-ups anymore.
Actually, my original handle goes back to 2007 Zeeper.
Trump absolutely promised to end the war in Ukraine within 24 hours by cutting for funding for it.
Don Jr. has been vocal about the war, what a disgrace it has been and saying we need to get out of it. And, absolutely speaks for his father.
There is no way Trump would have the support of both Tucker Carlson and Rand Paul if wasn't in favor of ending the war in Ukraine.
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