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EVs are basically useless in the cold.
Citizen Watch Report ^

Posted on 01/16/2024 10:18:18 AM PST by davikkm

As an electrical engineer, the most glaring problem with EVs is that we simply do not have the grid capacity to power a national EV fleet.

A few months ago some colleagues and I did the analysis for California – Australia is similar.

In order to create the same “power to wheels” as currently provided by gasoline and diesel, California would need to double its generation capacity.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: automotive; blogkaren; blogpimp; charging; cold; eatadeadratkaren; electric; evs; evssuckinthecold; gfykaren; theydrovewithpride; yousweetsummerchild
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To: SaxxonWoods

Thats good news. It’s been 0 to -11 at my house for the past week!


21 posted on 01/16/2024 10:51:51 AM PST by shotgun
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To: davikkm

so are liberals...


22 posted on 01/16/2024 10:53:21 AM PST by wny
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To: davikkm

Gee, I think it’s pretty cold in Norway, right?

https://cleantechnica.com/2023/09/02/evs-at-90-share-in-norway-tesla-model-y-best-seller/


23 posted on 01/16/2024 10:57:04 AM PST by BereanBrain
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To: bray

Come on man, there are thousands of children in the Congo that get FREE Flip Flops for working in the Cobalt mines


24 posted on 01/16/2024 10:57:11 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: davikkm

It’s now even worse. In order for the chargers to work they have to be located indoors in a heated room. So now there has to be enough power to charge up the cars and keep the room warm.


25 posted on 01/16/2024 11:00:43 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (What is left around which to circle the wagons?)
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To: Oberon

Yep

Stay home there’s a virus out there

Stay home you’re warming the planet

Stay home gas is too expensive

Stay home you can’t recharge

Stay home it’s violent out there

Stay home there is too much traffic

Stay home there is no where to park.

That’s the message. Stay home.


26 posted on 01/16/2024 11:03:10 AM PST by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: davikkm

Looks like they will need glo plugs for the batteries. So more batteries to keep the other batteries working.
Cute.


27 posted on 01/16/2024 11:05:11 AM PST by Liaison (TANSTAAFL)
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To: davikkm
“As an electrical engineer, the most glaring problem with EVs is that we simply do not have the grid capacity to power a national EV fleet.

A few months ago some colleagues and I did the analysis for California – Australia is similar.

In order to create the same “power to wheels” as currently provided by gasoline and diesel, California would need to double its generation capacity.”

2+2=4 for an electrical engineer. 2+2=5 for Democrat Leaders. That's the problem.

28 posted on 01/16/2024 11:07:46 AM PST by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell)
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To: Sequoyah101

I heard they allocated the money but none have been built yet.
Probably have to spend half the money on a spotted owl/ jumping mouse study to ensure the tortoises are protected before building a new substation not connect to the renewable power grid.


29 posted on 01/16/2024 11:08:43 AM PST by Liaison (TANSTAAFL)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
It’s now even worse. In order for the chargers to work they have to be located indoors in a heated room. So now there has to be enough power to charge up the cars and keep the room warm.

I am not a fan of EVs, but your post is partially wrong. The batteries have to be at room temperature to accept the fastest charge rate. It doesn't matter if they are inside or outdoors when the battery is at a low temp.

30 posted on 01/16/2024 11:15:22 AM PST by EVO X ( )
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To: vpintheak
EV’s are fine; if used as intended. You have to live in an urban area.

I respectfully disagree. In order for the gas savings of an EV to make sense and offset the costs of an EV, you have to drive it enough miles each year. With Alabama's gas and power prices I estimate that to be about 12K or so miles per year. If we go back to year 2019 prices (think Trump before covid) it's about 15K or so miles per year.

Those of us who live in quasi-rural/suburban areas and drive a lot just to go to the store and certainly to go to town and back are the ones most liable to drive enough miles for an EV to be practical. Then there's the matter of being able to charge at home (many people in urban areas can't because they live in apartments or, even if they live in houses they often have to park in the street).

31 posted on 01/16/2024 11:15:25 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: woodbutcher1963

The largest lithium deposits in the world are in Southern Oregon. Biden declared them a National Monument a year ago.


32 posted on 01/16/2024 11:15:58 AM PST by bray (You can tell who the Commies fear.)
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To: davikkm

I used to work for an engineering services firm that was contracted to study the problem of ‘everyone having EVs’. They also concluded that the existing residential infrastructure would melt down. The transformers weren’t robust enough to handle everyone concurrently plugging in an EV to charge.

They also claimed that it’s partly why big grocer stores sell gas - they need to have a local generator anyway for their electricity consumption, so what not sell gas too?

I wasn’t part of the team - but did see the presentation.


33 posted on 01/16/2024 11:16:08 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: DugwayDuke

You missed that they are predominately liberals.


34 posted on 01/16/2024 11:16:17 AM PST by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: SaxxonWoods
How are the batteries at 105 degrees? 110+? No issues? According to Climate Hysterics those temps will be everywhere soon.

Similar problems at elevated temperatures

35 posted on 01/16/2024 11:19:53 AM PST by EVO X ( )
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To: davikkm
Chicago-area Tesla charging stations lined with dead cars in freezing cold: 'A bunch of dead robots out here'
36 posted on 01/16/2024 11:19:59 AM PST by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: davikkm

Yesterday I took my wife to the airport in our Chevy Bolt. I keep it in the garage where I charged it and warmed it up in advance. It was around 12 degrees with 6 inches of snow all over the roads and I drove slowly at first until I got used to it and was able to get up to around 45 mph in some sections where the snow had blown off of the road. The trip was about 50 minutes there with no problems. On the way home I had become a more confident snow driver and was passing people who were just venturing out.

To summarize my experience: EVs are great for daily commutes and running errands all over town, but not so great for long trips. Benefits are low maintenance, zippy performance with instant torque and ... that’s about it.


37 posted on 01/16/2024 11:21:29 AM PST by Drawsing (Fools show their annoyance at once, the prudent man overlooks an insult. Proverbs 12:16)
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To: Drawsing

“ To summarize my experience: EVs are great for daily commutes and running errands all over town, but not so great for long trips. Benefits are low maintenance, zippy performance with instant torque and ... that’s about it.”

Spot on. Love my Mach e. Charge at home only, use it as my commuter car only.


38 posted on 01/16/2024 11:26:06 AM PST by jdsteel (PA voters elected a stroke victim and a dead guy. Not a joke. )
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To: davikkm

While they are shutting up nuclear, coal and hydro generating facilities!


39 posted on 01/16/2024 11:29:49 AM PST by AZJeep
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To: davikkm

Hey, also when the batteries short out and catch fire they would be almost impossible to put out but would keep you warm during freezing weather ... just don’t be in the vehicle when that happens.


40 posted on 01/16/2024 11:32:10 AM PST by antidemoncrat
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