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US Navy in a losing race to close China fleet gap
Asia Times ^ | JANUARY 15, 2024 | By GABRIEL HONRADA

Posted on 01/15/2024 5:44:12 PM PST by Red Badger

US Navy to upgrade four Arleigh Burke-class destroyers with updated kit but China’s superior fleet size would likely win any sea war

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The US Navy is significantly upgrading four Arleigh Burke-class destroyers with advanced radars and electronic warfare systems in an apparent stopgap bid to counterbalance China’s growing naval might.

This month, The Warzone reported that the US Navy has named the USS Pinckney, USS James E Williams, USS Chung Hoon and USS Halsey for the upgrades.

The upgrades will include the new AN/ALQ-32(V)7 Surface Electronic Warfare Improvement Program (SEWIP) Block III electronic warfare suite, thermal management systems, the new AN/SPY-6(V)4 radar and an improved version of the Aegis Combat System.

The SEWIP Block III suite features active electronically scanned array technology, allowing powerful bursts of radio-frequency energy to launch electronic attacks on multiple targets. The US Navy is also acquiring two other radars in the SPY-6 family for integration on other ships.

The Warzone says that the US Navy is upgrading an initial four Arleigh Burke destroyers to the so-called Mod 2.0 configuration in two phases, with the first phase receiving all components except for the new radar.

Other ships in the class will be upgraded to the Mod 2.0 configuration after the first four Arleigh Burke destroyers. The US Navy is also acquiring new Flight III Arleigh Burkes, which will become the US Navy’s primary air defense command and control platform afloat.

At the same time, the US Navy is planning to develop a larger class of destroyers, known as DDG(X) with a displacement of around 13,500 tons, in fiscal year 2032 without disrupting Arleigh Burke production.

The DDG-51 Mod 2.0, or DDG 2.0 standard, may be a stopgap solution until newer Arleigh Burke Flight III and DDG(X) hulls come into service, providing high-end surface warfare capabilities to replace the Ticonderoga class.


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1 posted on 01/15/2024 5:44:12 PM PST by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Our advantage is that they are built with Chinese parts and workmanship.


2 posted on 01/15/2024 5:45:36 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Red Badger

There is no China fleet gap. The US Navy has by far the most powerful blue water fleet in the Pacific, Japan is second, and China third.


3 posted on 01/15/2024 5:46:47 PM PST by devere
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To: Secret Agent Man

I recently read where we may have to contract out our shipbuilding of military ships due to cost overruns and delays. Japan and Korea.


4 posted on 01/15/2024 5:47:58 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Red Badger

Subs are the game changers.


5 posted on 01/15/2024 5:48:47 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

Yes, as one FReeper put it, the Navy has two types of ships: Submarines and Targets..............


6 posted on 01/15/2024 5:51:23 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

The Red Chinese have always led the world in lying.

They have no desire to see most of that brand new fleet at the bottom of the ocean. They hope to psyche the US and it’s allies out of fighting.


7 posted on 01/15/2024 5:52:02 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: devere

Would it help to pull the 4 remaining Iowa class battleships out and refit them?
Has to be cheaper than scratch.


8 posted on 01/15/2024 5:52:12 PM PST by desertsolitaire ( M)
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To: Red Badger; All

China has a 200:1 advantage in navy construction capacity.

That level of quantity difference will overcome any quality deficit.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/alarming-navy-intel-slide-warns-of-chinas-200-times-greater-shipbuilding-capacity


9 posted on 01/15/2024 5:52:29 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: devere; Red Badger

“There is no China fleet gap. The US Navy has by far the most powerful blue water fleet in the Pacific, Japan is second, and China third.”

Correct on all counts.

And NOBODY should give any credence whatsoever to an analyst that doesn’t know what a SLQ-32 is.


10 posted on 01/15/2024 5:52:46 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: devere

China is still mostly a green navy. They don’t have even a fraction of the reach of US if they wanted to attack anything outside of the 60 mile zone of their country.


11 posted on 01/15/2024 5:55:42 PM PST by Jonty30 (In a nuclear holocaust, there is always a point in time where the meat is cooked to perfection. )
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To: desertsolitaire

The Iowas are worn out. The turbines are worn out, and the gun barrels are worn out

Replacing machinery on them would cost more than building new ships.

According to the guy who is the curator of the USS New Jersey Museum ship.

This article also doesn’t mention the 60+ new frigates the Nvy is having built which are good ships


12 posted on 01/15/2024 5:57:25 PM PST by Fai Mao (Starve the Beast and steal its food.)
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To: Mariner

Besides he’s still a student at Friendship University of Russia.

No sh!t.


13 posted on 01/15/2024 5:58:34 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: devere
IF we could deploy the entire fleet to the Western Pacific I'd agree.

China has the advantage of the "home court". We have to travel across the Pacific and they don't.

14 posted on 01/15/2024 5:59:01 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: desertsolitaire

Is there any source for 16-inch gun propellant or any 16-inch shells. I remember reading that in both cases their use during the Vietnam War, Lebanon & the first Gulf War both propellant an shells were WWII vintage. I doubt if there’s a manufacturing source anywhere.


15 posted on 01/15/2024 6:01:33 PM PST by Reily (!!)
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To: ealgeone

“China has the advantage of the “home court”. We have to travel across the Pacific and they don’t. “

Our air power makes all the difference.

The USAF, Japanese AF and USN dominate the skies.


16 posted on 01/15/2024 6:02:36 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Reverend Wright

China is a superior naval power to America?


17 posted on 01/15/2024 6:09:49 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Red Badger

Did you hear about Ukraine hitting ships with drones and missiles

That’s the future


18 posted on 01/15/2024 6:11:53 PM PST by forYourChildrenVote4Bush
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To: Red Badger
We can thank Bill Clinton and Bernard Schwarts for China's remarkable surge in technology advances in the last 30 years.

-PJ

19 posted on 01/15/2024 6:15:18 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: devere

Exactly. Just because the Chicoms have ships, doesn’t say anything about the quality of those ships or the seamen who man them, officers who lead them.

I’ve heard from more than a few that Chinese officers can buy their commissions.


20 posted on 01/15/2024 6:15:39 PM PST by rbg81
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