There Never Has Been a State of Palestine

Red State ^ | 12/11/2023 | Ward Clark

[SeekAndFind]

There never has been an independent, self-governed national entity called "Palestine." 

In Biblical times, the region now encompassing Israel was known as Canaan, which included the kingdoms of Israel and Judah. The term "Palestine" originally referred to a small area occupied by the Philistines (as one theory has it), from whence comes the name "Palestine." In Roman times, the area was known as Judea and was ruled by Jewish kings, and, under the Roman Emperor Constantine, became a Christian province generally known in Europe simply as "The Holy Land." The name "Palestine" was not legally applied until the British occupation starting in 1915.

And, of course, following the Second World War and the Holocaust, the region was established as Israel, a Jewish state, although Arab Muslims have full civil rights in that nation. But an independent, self-governed state of "Palestine" did not exist.

That is the claim made and supported by my good friend Jillian Becker, who has traveled through Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) strongholds while writing her book "The Plo: The Rise and Fall of the Palestine Liberation Organization." Ms. Becker, who has also authored, among other works, "Hitler's Children: The Story of the Baader-Meinhof Terrorist Gang," is an accomplished author and researcher who has made a study of this topic. On the topic of Palestine, she writes:

If there is one issue in world politics on which opinions are held most strongly while being least informed it is the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Vast numbers of people, almost certainly a majority, believe these falsehoods:

1. The Palestinians had their country taken away from them by the Jews.
2. The Israelis expelled the Palestinians.
3. The Israelis illegally occupy territories that belong to the Palestinians.
4. The Israelis refuse to negotiate for peace with Palestinian leaders.
5. Israeli intransigence impeded a peace process that Palestinian leaders pursued in good faith.

We summarily dismiss points 1 and 2: –

1. There never was, in all history, a State of Palestine.
2. There is no evidence that any Arabs were expelled from the State of Israel. There is evidence that in at least one city – Haifa – they were implored to stay. There is also evidence that the Mufti of Jerusalem and Arab leaders urged them to leave before five Arab armies invaded the newly-declared State of Israel, promising them a victory after which the refugees would return to their homes. And there is absolute certainty that hundreds of thousands of Jews were forcibly expelled – stripped of all they possessed – from the Arab states. 

Here's a key point that Jillian excerpts from a 2011 "Daily Mail" piece:

The claim that the establishment of a Palestine state would end the dispute is also ridiculous. Such a state was on offer in 1948; Israel offered to give up more than 90 per cent of the West Bank for such a state in 2000; and an even more generous offer was subsequently made by Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert. The Palestinian response was in every case war and terror. Yet all this is ignored, and Netanyahu is blamed instead for the impasse.

This is key. Since 1948, every offer of land for a Palestinian state has been rebuffed. These people, indistinguishable ethnically, linguistically, or culturally from any other Arab Muslim residents of the region, were given land in Gaza, and that land became the source of decades of attacks on Israel, culminating with the October 7th atrocities.

The burden of peace is not on Israel. They have made every effort that reasonable people would expect them to make, but the problem is that Israel is not dealing with reasonable people, not in Gaza, not in Lebanon, not in liberal enclaves in the United States, and certainly not in the United Nations. The refusals have been on the part of Hamas, Hezbollah, the PLO, Iran, and the other usual suspects.

It's sad that so much unrest, so much hate, has arisen from an abysmal ignorance — or denial — of history. It's baffling how this ignorance or denial spreads, especially in the middle of the Information Revolution, when most of the free world literally has history's greatest library at its fingertips.

As Jillian points out:

This information is the bare minimum a commenter needs before he is justified in expressing an opinion on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. An opinion formed with any less knowledge is worthless and potentially dangerous.

An informed opinion is a wonderful thing. An uninformed opinion is worth its weight in bull excrement. The two are not equal, nor should they be considered as such. But that is, sadly, all too often the case in these unsettled times.

I cannot recommend Jillian Becker's work highly enough. She has done a great deal of research into international terrorism, the causes of and key instigators and actors, and the responses by the civilized world. Her writing should be required reading for anyone who wishes to better understand this issue.

Read more RedState coverage on the Israel-Hamas conflict and the rise of antisemitism in America at these links:

• Police Investigating Trio of Assailants Brutally Assaulting Jewish New Yorkers in Separate Attacks
• BREAKING: Hundreds of Pro-Hamas Protesters Ignite Smoke Bombs at UPenn, Chant 'Intifada Revolution'
• NEW: Man Shouting 'Free Palestine' Fires Shots Near Albany Synagogue on First Night of Hanukkah 
• Bernie Sanders Splits With Squad Over Calls for Permanent Cease-Fire, Says Hamas Wants 'Permanent War'

[Repeal The 17th]

Philistine.

[roving]

You can tell the Liberals until you’re blue in the face, and they won’t listen.

[Right_Wing_Madman]

In Roman times, the area was known as Judea and was ruled by Jewish kings

One clarification: after the death of Herod in 4 BC, the lineage of Jewish kings ended in Judea and the Romans ruled the province through their governors (though the Romans did allow Herod II to rule Judea in 41-44 AD). Pontius Pilate was one of the more famous Roman governors of Judea.

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[rktman]

Correct.

[Cronos]

Well, the Roman’s did call it Syria-Philistia from 70 AD. However that has zero relevance to the current “Palestine “

Also the fact that they never gad a state doesn’t mean they can’t have one. And they do have a state of their own, it is called Jordan

[nutmeg]

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[NoLibZone]

Not one single call for a Free Palestine from 1948 to 1967:

Gaza was under Egypt’s control, the West Bank including East Jerusalem under Jordan’s.

The call Is limited to its use in attacking Jews.

[NoLibZone]

There has never been a single archaeological find of a Palestinian civilization or nation.

[fortes fortuna juvat]

You can tell the Liberals until you’re blue in the face, and they won’t listen.
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Every one of them I’ve ever known will continue to deny reality even if their error is blatantly obvious, and even at the risk of being slaughtered. They proved that prior to and during the Holocaust, and they continue to prove it everyday.

[Cronos]

and during Ottoman times

[21twelve]

“...the region was established as Israel, a Jewish state, although Arab Muslims have full civil rights in that nation.”

I saw some interesting videos of interviews after the 10/7 attack. Arab Muslims in the IDF saying how Israel is one. A Beduoin telling of the attack on him and his family, killing his wife point blank as she wore her head covering.

[SaveFerris]

I wish that David Jeremiah would stop referring to it as “The land of Palestine”

Completely ignores what happened after the Bar Kokhba Rebellion (132-135 A.D.) after the Romans erected a Temple to Jupiter

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_Kokhba_revolt

Result Roman victory

Restructuring of Judea as Syria Palaestina

Massacre of the Judean populace

Suppression of Jewish religious/political autonomy by Hadrian

Expulsion of the Jews from Jerusalem

[SaveFerris]

(You can tell the Liberals until you’re blue in the face, and they won’t listen.)

That's why they're so easily deceived by Godless Reprobate agendas

And also be deceived by the False Prophet and the False Messiah.





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[21twelve]

After Egypt and the surrounding countries fought wars with Israel and lost, any land won by Israel becomes theirs. It is a moot point in my opinion who was there previously.

If the “Palestinians” want it back they can fight for it - which they did. And they should lose this war too.

Too bad Israel gave their conquered Sinai back to Egypt. The middle of it would be a good place to move Gaza to.

[telescope115]

Great resources, thanks for posting them.

[Daveinyork]

The province of Judea was renamed by the Roman Emporer Hadrian to punish the Jews for revolting. He renamed it Syria Palestina as a deliberate punishment and insult. The name was derived from the ancient, extinct enemy of Israel, the Philistines.

[Vaduz]

There never was, in all history, a State of Palestine.

I can see the media drawing up maps for the 6:00 news to prover there was one.

They never let reeducation go to waste.