Pure Evil -- How Fox News Treats Donald Trump

Fox News Jessie Waters Primetime 11/27/2023 ^ | 11/27/2023 | BroJoeK

[BroJoeK]

Robert DeLong: "No, there is plenty of evidence, you just have doubts, and I think I am being extremely generous with that conclusion."

My understanding is, all of that has been investigated and none of it was confirmed, and so no legal actions were taken against the alleged perpetrators.
As of today, there is no significant case against Democrats.

Nor is there ever likely to be until Republicans regain enough political power in those states, and that cannot happen until Republicans are massively more involved in the voting processes -- from simple poll watching to guarding and recording everything at "drop boxes" (where they exist), to both observing Democrat vote harvesting and running our own, to validating every vote cast & counted.

I think none of the shenanigans alleged in 2020 could happen had serious Republicans been there to observe, record and prevent them.

So 100% of my personal optimism is based on believing that nobody more than Donald Trump understands what went wrong in 2020 and exactly what he'll need to do to prevent it happening again in 2024.

Once Republicans are firmly in power, and have cleaned house in the Deep State, then there can be serious investigations, prosecutions and convictions of Democrats' criminal leadership.
But nothing good can happen before that, I fear.
Of course, if something happens and we lose Trump, then all bets are off and I shudder to think what....

Robert DeLong: "The feckless Supreme Court refused to get involved in the election theft, because that worthless POS Chief Justice Roberts hated Trump, even saying that he will never let that bastard occupy the White House again."

That is not a fact I'm aware of, and while Roberts is a huge disappointment, he did vote for Dobbs v Jackson, so is not completely traitorous.

Robert DeLong: "Perhaps there is hope for you, but you still need to get up to speed ,because those doubts you harbor are what prevent you from seeing the whole truth, and seeing the whole truth is necessary.
The Republican Party, or should I say, those who support the GOPe, are corrupt or too stupid to be people we need to fight this fight with us."

You misunderstand if you suppose I am "in doubt", I'm not in the least, I'm simply very clear in my own mind about which allegations have been more-or-less confirmed and which have not.
I also think we will never really know the truth until Republicans, lead by Donald Trump, have regained enough political power to order thorough investigations leading to effective prosecutions of guilty-as-h*ll Democrats.

[BroJoeK]

"Fox is not pro trump. Their views are more in line with Haley and desantis on all things trump.
I have not watched fox since Tucker Carlson left except for soundbytes here and there"

I'm not defending Fox News when they stab Trump in the back, passive-aggressively, as I saw recently on Waters Primetime.

And I doubt if they really love either Haley or Desantis, but they do want a contest they can report on, otherwise why watch them?

And I agree Fox is not 100% pro-Trump, but I can't see them as the enemy either.

Viewer statistics show about 55% of Fox viewers are Conservatives, the rest "moderate/independents" and liberals.
We'll need those people to vote for Trump, no reason to make enemies of them.

[BroJoeK]

"I get my news on YouTube and freerepublic"

Me too. Sometimes watch parts of Ingraham, Waters and/or Hannity which is how I happened to catch this little back-stabbing incident.

[MayflowerMadam]

“I get my news on YouTube and freerepublic”

I get mine from FreeRepublic mostly. I used to be all in for War Room on RAV, but the majority of the show has sunk to infomercials and Bannon filibustering. There are fewer interesting and important guests.

Too bad, too, since Bannon has a big voice in the conservative arena. Maybe things will change as the election gets close.

[BroJoeK]

DiogenesLamp: "The case is ridiculous on the face of it. No Fox personnel libeled Dominion.
Their guests did.
Fox had no liability in this at all."

For sure, I don't understand it, but am not willing to just assume the worst.

Consider this -- corrupt Democrat prosecutors and juries may well send Donald Trump to jail, attempting to prevent him for being reelected.
Do you suppose such people would hesitate for one minute to ruin Fox News in a lawsuit if they get the chance?
With such people evidence or law doesn't matter, rather it's all about tribal unity and defeating Republicans.

You mentioned the Murdochs -- they're Brits, and don't understand American judicial & political culture.
A sympathetic explanation is that they simply wanted to minimize bad publicity.

And in all of this it's forgotten that one of the major, major accusations in 2020 was that Dominion voting machines were rigged to plus up Democrat votes and/or plus down Republicans.
Apparently, that claim was 100% baseless, and so how many other claims made were also fake news?
This is the fundamental problem with any discussions on the 2020 election -- it's impossible for the average person to separate out fact from fiction.

The current consensus of "wise guy" opinions seems to be this: in 2020 Democrats were successful in changing laws to make it legal for them to steal the election.

I am sick and disgusted about that, and hope it can be corrected in 2024.

[DiogenesLamp]

Do you suppose such people would hesitate for one minute to ruin Fox News in a lawsuit if they get the chance?

No, I don't suppose they would.

You mentioned the Murdochs -- they're Brits, and don't understand American judicial & political culture.

Australians, which are just as bad if not worse.

Apparently, that claim was 100% baseless, and so how many other claims made were also fake news?

The people claiming it is baseless are the same people who claim 2020 was the cleanest election ever. I tend to believe the opposite of what they say is true.

This is the fundamental problem with any discussions on the 2020 election -- it's impossible for the average person to separate out fact from fiction.

I think some of this is due to the deliberate false stories spread by people trying to discredit any inquiry into election fraud. That business of the US army raiding servers in Germany comes to mind.

I am sick and disgusted about that, and hope it can be corrected in 2024.

One of the biggest problems lies in your state of Pennsylvania. I would urge you to try to do something about it, but I very much doubt there is anything you can do.

Corrupt big cities will keep vote fraud alive.

[BroJoeK]

Diogeneslamp: "Corrupt big cities will keep vote fraud alive."

Hmmmmmmm.....

Rev. Jessie Jackson to the 1988 Democratic Convention in Atlanta, GA: "Keep hope alive"

Today's Democrat leaders to their current minions: "Keep fraud alive"

Or so it seems.

[ckilmer]

Yeah, I watched the war room for awhile. but stopped because their news was over hyped. they had way more promises than deliverables.

[ckilmer]

Here is a tucker carlson youtube that is well worth watching. The interviewers are some silicon valley venture capitalists. But the conversation convers nearly anything you can think of.

Most interesting I thought was tucker carleson’s view that wealth makes people want to kill themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pLY1X46H1E

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