Posted on 10/11/2023 12:36:55 PM PDT by dynachrome
There Kahane formed the Kach Party and stirred nationalist fervor against Arabs, whom he campaigned to remove (violently, if necessary) from Israel and all Israeli-occupied areas. He won a seat in the Israeli Knesset (parliament) in 1984, but his term ended when Israel banned the Kach Party for its antidemocratic and racist beliefs.
Back in New York, Kahane was shot to death by a naturalized American of Egyptian descent. His burial in Jerusalem was accompanied by mob violence and cries of “Death to the Arabs!”
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It was truly ironic when this loser who had called on American Jews to flee to Israel to avoid an “American Holocaust” was gunned down in NYC by some Egyptian-born mutant.
A nut for wanting to defend Jews from attacks. You are showing yourself more and more.
I knew Kahane personally. You don’t know what the heck you’re talking about. Kahane was vilified by the media because he advocated removing all the Muslims and Arabs from Israel. He was also attacked by the US and Israeli legal systems for this and because one actual nut job planted a bomb in the name of the JDL.
He was a brilliant man who was never afraid to speak the truth. Yes, he paid with his life for it. Not ironic. Prophetic.
Gee... Why would ANYONE ever have anything against most of the Arab world?
1/10th the Global population. 98% of the murderous a$$holes.
Was he Meir Kahane or Michael King when you knew him? :-P
Hamas delenda est
[Fun facets of that party's policy platform included collective punishment (the home village of a duly convicted terrorist would be expelled from the country), as well as outlawing miscegenation between Jews and Gentiles.]
He wasn't a nut for wanting to defend Jews from attacks; he was a nut because he was a vociferous Jewish supremacist, to the point of absurdity.
“included collective punishment (the home village of a duly convicted terrorist would be expelled from the country).”
I don’t see a problem with this policy right now.
L
Punishing a group for the actions committed by an individual is heinous no matter where on Earth you are.
Expelling an entire village for crimes they did not commit is likewise repulsive.
(I can’t believe I have to say this on Free Republic.)
Interesting rationalization. I guess it’s OK to fly passenger jets into skyscrapers to avenge some kind of outrage in the past, too?
It’s remarkable that we have to get people back to the basics on this website.
“ Punishing a group for the actions committed by an individual is heinous no matter where on Earth you are.”
These actions weren’t committed by an individual. They were committed by a duly elected government in a free and fair election with the howling support of its constituents. Those constituents live in villages.
In this case the entire group we are speaking of has been screaming “death to the Jews” since since 1967. They teach 5 year olds to scream it. They teach 10 year olds about the glory of strapping bombs to themselves and detonating them in pizza parlors to kill Jews. They cheer when Jewish women and children are slaughtered in their beds, raped and their heads cut off.
By your absolutely incomprehensible “logic” we should have refrained from bombing Berlin in 1944 because it somehow constituted collective punishment.
Your position isn’t just illogical, it’s absolutely immoral.
Of course they should suffer “collective punishment”. Gazans voted overwhelmingly for Hamas. People should always get the government they vote for.
And they should get it good and hard.
L
On this one you make good points.
You are conflating the current conflict between Israel and Gaza with legislation advocated of Meir Kahane's Kach party, which did not discriminate between Gaza or otherwise. Notwithstanding that they already advocated for automatic death penalty for any terrorist caught and convicted (which is reasonable), why then does everyone in their home municipality deserve to be expelled? (Granted, there were numerous times his party advocated for the expulsion of all Arabs, regardless of citizenship status. I wonder if he would have made exceptions for those who were Jewish or not.)
Given his documented antipathy for Arabs, I imagine it would not have made a difference. From the man himself, on page 213 of his 1987 book "Uncomfortable Questions for Comfortable Jews": "I want to put an end to such things as the joint project between Kiryat Ata's Jewish youth and the Arabs of Rama village, a project sponsored by the Ministry of Education with funds given by the Reform abomination known as Interns for Peace. I want to eliminate funds for the joint Jewish-Arab "camping experience" at Meir Shfeya village, spondored by the Reform movement with Ministry of Education funds. And I want, never again, to read another news release such as as the one below: "Jerusalem, July 27: Some 9,000 students from the Arab sector are presently participating in summer camps organized by the Youth Department of the Ministry of Education and Culture...There also are summer camps in which Jewish and Arab students spend time together." ""
Charming.
Some of his proposed legislation to the Knesset included the following: "Non-Jews will be obliged to assume duties, taxes and slavery. If he does not agree to slavery and taxes, he will be forcibly deported...Prohibition on intermarriage – Jewish citizens of the country are not allowed to marry non-Jews, both in Israel and abroad. Such intermarriage will not be recognized as marriage at all... Jews of the State of Israel are not allowed to have full or partial marital relations of any kind with non-Jews, even outside of marriage. Anyone breaching this section is liable to imprisonment for two years...A non-Jew who has a marital relationship with a Jew is liable to 50 years in prison. A Jewish prostitute or a Jewish male who has an affair with a non-Jewish male is sentenced to five years in prison."
Half a century in prison, if a non-Jew marries a Jew of Israel! What a paragon.
By your absolutely incomprehensible “logic” we should have refrained from bombing Berlin in 1944 because it somehow constituted collective punishment.
Again, you conflate wartime action with the expulsion of an entire village in peacetime without due process. (Not that Hamas qualifies to be treated as combatants in a state of war with Israel, as woodpusher pointed out here.)
Relations between the Israelis and the Arabs are complicated. Treating every single one as though they were identical with Hamas accomplishes...what, exactly?
“Relations between the Israelis and the Arabs are complicated.”
Not anymore.
L
Granted, there were numerous times his party advocated for the expulsion of all Arabs, regardless of citizenship status.
There is a certain idiocy to this concept. It is possible to expel foreigners, but they couldn't just expel natives. Even if they considered them trash, you can't just dump your trash in somebody else's yard. What country would be willing to accept them?
The more you read intelligent FR posts on this subject, and the more you see events unfold there in Israel, Gaza and the disputed territories, the more clear it becomes why the original plan for the partition of Palestine after WW2 basically required much of the area to function as a UN protectorate.
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