Posted on 09/07/2023 3:10:00 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
Interestingly enough, a Donbass commander relayed the story of how Ukraine faced disastrous losses in the SMO partly for this reason. When NATO came to overhaul the AFU into their much-vaunted Western NCO system, the Ukrainian officers subsequently saw opportunity to “pull back” from the frontline, considering that to be an obsolete “Soviet” tactic, and figuring the new NATO-trained sergeants can handle leading the charge.
The problem is that in the U.S., as Ryan Mcbeth repeatedly emphasizes, sergeants undergo many years of progressive training in order to truly develop the leadership and famed “initiative”-building qualities touted in the West. You can’t just turn someone into a sergeant overnight, pull all the commanders off the field, then tell the sergeant to take over.
This naturally resulted in clueless AFU “sergeants” leading a bunch of helpless conscripts straight to their deaths in endless meat assaults, where no one had any idea of what they were doing. You know all those recent videos where entire trenches full of AFU personnel surrender, and in their “interviews” state how they had no clue where the commanders were and haven’t seen or heard from them in days/weeks?
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There is a larger issue with the NATO NCO strategy: in a multi-year peer war, most of the troops you started with end up as casualties by the end of year one - especially junior officers and NCOs.
The survivors end up as trainers for the people on the battlefield in years two and three.
If NCOs take years to train, and most of them end up as casualties after year one, where are the experienced NCOs going to come from in years two and beyond ?
Could we possibly get the NCO to do without the AFL at another URL? That would be PDS!
Reminds me of the “Instant Sergeant” program they had in Vietnam...
“When NATO came to overhaul the AFU into their much-vaunted Western NCO system, the Ukrainian officers subsequently saw opportunity to “pull back” from the frontline”
I guess the West Point Training Manuals never bothered to mention that GPS could be jammed, since none of their graduates has EVER had to directly fight a MODERN army, as in the Russian Army.
Western Armies (American, British, Canadian, French, German, etc.) have traditionally had very strong NCO Corps. Senior leadership entrusts much responsibility to these NCO's and it pays off on the mission end.
Eastern Armies either entrust too much authority in their officer corps, or Senior leadership. In authoritarian countries, many Generals hate have subordinates that have a strong base of knowledge- they're afraid that they'll get overthrown. Other armies have a contempt for ALL enlisted men, not just privates.
This starts even in Basic training, where we were trained by our Drill Sergeants on how to establish a base perimeter and command what troops were left.
We were also trained to realize that even as a junior enlisted man, the lives of hundreds of fellow troops relied on how well you performed. My ARMY Drill Sergeant told us the story of Doug Hegdahl, a teenaged NAVY sailor blown off the deck of a ship and captured by the North Vietnamese. Because of his resourcefulness, he possibly saved the lives of hundreds of his fellow POW's.
This reminded us to take our training very seriously.
If you read the article you’ll see how things are changing such as in the 2008 reforms in Russia. Ironically, as the US is now the more authoritarian state, with extremely poor educational backgrounds among the recruits, it appears the situation is reversing.
That’s all fine, but the point is that in a multi-year peer war, after year one, NCOs with “years of training” will all be gone, and the NCOs who take over will have weeks or months of training.
If your basic force structure relies on NCOs with “years of training” and you don’t have any, you have to change your basic defence strategy in the middle of a war, on the fly.
Better to be realistic and set things up before hand.
The problem I have with the Russia-Ukraine War, is the terrible war footage. Footage that doesn’t align with the hundreds of thousands casualty figures that are being floated around by propagandists on “both sides.”
The last footage I watched, had 7 or 8 Ukrainians clearing empty trenches in the middle of nowhere.
The footage before that had 8-10 Ukrainians get out of AV, spend about a half hour to kill one Russian, with no body presented, but one Ukrainian guy talks “cocky talk” about his mission for a minute.
My favorite is the one explosion showed from multiple angles and it gets presented as different explosions in the same video.
Please ...please...lets get some footage that looks real from these huge military operations in Ukraine.
….and the wide selection of deadly weapons at Ivan’s platoon level. They have weapons we simply do not have, notice the platoon level Thermobarics section, drone section, imbedded at the lowest level. Throw in the RPG and ATGM at the lowest level.
Of particular interest is their thermobaric developments, down to thermobaric grenades……NATO had better get busy, Ivan appears to be way ahead of the curve….we already blew it when we ditched artillery for aircraft….as Patton said when asked what won the war, our “ Artillery “…..interesting we gave a majority of our M777’s away, only to be destroyed.
You sure you want to see actual combat footage with Russian soldiers getting blasted? There’s some on Rumble. I am not going to link to any just because it’s dancing on someone’s grave.
You are a victim of Western media- try Southfront, , Odysee, TME, Slavyguard for TONS of live geolocated video, it paints a very, very different picture…” Bradley Square”, for example.
“Of particular interest is their thermobaric developments, down to thermobaric grenades……NATO had better get busy, Ivan appears to be way ahead of the curve”
ABSOLUTELY - which was why I opposed the war from the outset. It was TOTALLY OBVIOUS to us people with a military background that we NEVER took Russia (or China, for that matter) seriously, and instead chose to simply IGNORE all of the advances made by them, and they weren’t even secrets.
Beyond that, we had Weinies in DOD (probably some of the bunch here, LOL) who almost certainly figured that if GPS worked in their car, then GPS would work on the battlefield.
...while the term ‘jamming’ was never part of their Annapolis syllabus.
This was a good movie depicting what the US Army went through
https://youtu.be/Oi4eo0GvgTw?si=aikRDFFmfwyRHFzN
while the term ‘jamming’ was never part of their Annapolis syllabus.
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Either was “ Thermobarics”, or supersonic cruise missiles…both of which Vlad has an endless supply. I will say back in my days ( 70’s) with the 82nd, we were aware of Ivan’s widespread use of Thermobaric grenades, RPG’s etc…the US chose to disregard developing that weapon, which as we see now are the “ ticket” for bunkers, trenches, enclosed areas….their latest grenade has a 12 meter kill radius inside buildings, trenches, etc….these beauties literally suck the air out of your lungs, if you are breathing air, you are done- unlike frags and our offensive grenades ( I think we ditched those a few years back)….
…..with that said, our military decided to put a third safety on our M67 frags a few years ago…..THREE safeties??? They cited todays troops “ lacked confidence “….
While our DOD was busy wasting millions on putting a third safety on our M67’s, ( 7 years in development) ,Ivan was busy developing even more lethal thermobarics…go figure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkN-_SPhTmg&t=23s
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