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To: Westbrook

And Trump was wrong to say that. Aggression cannot be rewarded with territorial concessions, completely unaccpetable in this day and age. Do you think China is entitled to Formosa if they decide to invade?


3 posted on 08/17/2023 6:53:53 AM PDT by oldskoolwargamer2
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To: oldskoolwargamer2

the die was cast with weakling Joe in year 1 withholding Ukrainian aid already voted on , with idiot Joe offering to send Z a plane a few days in, with incompetent Joe in charge of a war he won’t commit to win and with corrupt Joe beholden to the Ukraine of Burisma and the military-industrial complex. right now you have a human meat-grinder which is morally unaceptable. with DJT you had deterrence. realism saves lives.


6 posted on 08/17/2023 6:59:22 AM PDT by avital2
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To: oldskoolwargamer2
And Trump was wrong to say that.

No he wasn't. You're just pining for the '80s and the last Ukrainian.

8 posted on 08/17/2023 7:00:08 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: oldskoolwargamer2

“And Trump was wrong to say that.” The Venn diagram of Zeepers and GOPe Freepers with TDS shows a strong correlation.

“Aggression cannot be rewarded with territorial concessions, completely unaccpetable in this day and age.” What? Something tribes and nations have been doing since they have existed is now impossible? Are you a disciple of Francis Fukuyama and his little trope “the end of history?”

“Do you think China is entitled to Formosa if they decide to invade?” You reside in a country that lived under the mantra of “Manifest Destiny” for over a century and now has a worldwide empire of satellite states and you still don’t get the concept?


10 posted on 08/17/2023 7:03:46 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (The Forever War is a crime against humanity)
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To: oldskoolwargamer2

How’s Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Libya doing?

You warmongers deserve to be sent to the front lines and back up your BS.
Ukraine awaits tough guy…


11 posted on 08/17/2023 7:04:38 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: oldskoolwargamer2
Aggression cannot be rewarded with territorial concessions, completely unaccpetable in this day and age.

Since you don't get to make any rules and nobody cares what you think, your acceptance of reality - or lack thereof - is completely irrelevant.

12 posted on 08/17/2023 7:07:59 AM PDT by AAABEST ( NY/DC/CA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: oldskoolwargamer2
The United States has invaded and occupied more countries in the last 25 years than the rest of the world combined.

Some of us recognize the hypocrisy of this as well as the stupidity of a bankrupt nation $33T in debt spending even a nickel on this crap.

13 posted on 08/17/2023 7:09:44 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.”)
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To: oldskoolwargamer2
And Trump was wrong to say that. Aggression cannot be rewarded with territorial concessions, completely unaccpetable in this day and age. Do you think China is entitled to Formosa if they decide to invade?

Do you think that Revolutionaries that overthrow Constitutions and elections should be rewarded? Should disenfranchised voters be killed if they disagree?
26 posted on 08/17/2023 7:55:47 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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If Russia is able to add territory through aggression endorsed by NATO, then Russia will be more aggressive and menacing and NATO will lose credibility. The best and most likely outcome is a ceasefire that freezes the conflict but keeps economic sanctions in place until a final peace deal.


29 posted on 08/17/2023 8:14:28 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: oldskoolwargamer2
You’re a low IQ’d idiot. You ignore reality by thinking America needs to be the world’s cop. We don’t have a single national interest in Ukraine, but somehow in your mind we are responsible to fight aggression. How’s that working out? We are losing yet again. How did Afghanistan work out? Yeah, we lost. How did Iraq work out? We lost. How did Syria work out? We lost.

Do you see the pattern? We suck at being the world’s cop because our leaders, both political and our woke generals don’t have an eff’n clue as to what they are doing. Meanwhile, armchair pissant generals like you are completely fine with spending my children and grandchildren into endless debt while concurrently losing.

And you are worried about an aggressive China invading Taiwan. What an eff’n joke. Your mindless support for Biden’s war in Ukraine is leaving our nation broke, our weapons and ammo depleted, our military’s recruitment an abject failure. In short we are weaker to fight real enemies like China because your moronic thinking and lack of logic. It’s people like you that are China’s best friend because you make America weak.

34 posted on 08/17/2023 8:41:01 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (The Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself. )
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To: oldskoolwargamer2

> Do you think China is entitled to Formosa if they decide
> to invade?

Does China have a historical precedent for inclusion of Formosa in within its territorial boundaries?

Nikita Khrushchev, a Ukrainian, was First Secretary of the Communist Party in the Soviet Union in the 50s and 60s. He succeeded Josef Stalin as leader of the Soviet Union.

Khrushchev, in an act of prescient nationalism, ceded Crimea to the Ukraine in 1954.

Ukraine, for hundreds of years, was considered a part of the Russian Empire, but declared its independence in 1991.

This is only a small part of the backstory to this war.


36 posted on 08/17/2023 8:45:59 AM PDT by Westbrook (The Democrats are wizards at two things: Finding votes and losing evidence.)
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To: oldskoolwargamer2

The US has intentionally parked some of it’s 50 bio warfare labs in the Ukraine on Russia’s border and NATO trained and built a 600K army starting from 2014 to take on Russia. Russia kept trying to negotiate but NATO was determined to provoke Russia with security threats and then have its proxy, the Ukraine, scream “Halp! Halp! I’m being invaded!!!!”

Russia petitioned the UN, explaining in detail the danger to Russia posed by the bio warfare labs parked on it’s border and requesting the UN to investigate. The UN had no reason to decline - if there were dangers to Russia there the UN could have proven it. But the UN, US, and others dismissed Russia’s request and so here we are, with Russia bombing bio warfare labs in the Ukraine at the start of the conflict.


41 posted on 08/17/2023 10:38:38 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: oldskoolwargamer2
You say that ukrainians did not want to be invaded?? Then perhaps they should have avoided the following:
46 posted on 08/17/2023 11:06:48 AM PDT by ganeemead ( )
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