Posted on 08/02/2023 11:12:37 AM PDT by Starman417
Biden's DOJ has indicted Donald Trump for the third time, but this one is different. Jack Smith has brought an indictment against Donald Trump that criminalizes free speech. The counts:
George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley said Smith issued “the first criminal indictment of alleged disinformation.” “If you take a red pen to all of the material presumptively protected by the First Amendment, you can reduce much of the indictment to haiku,” he said. “I felt that the Mar-a-Lago indictment was strong. This is the inverse.”Andy McCarthy:
Former New York federal prosecutor Andy McCarthy said Smith had to stretch the statutes to capture Trump’s behavior. “[Smith] has extravagantly stretched these statues in order to try and capture this behavior and that’s because this is a proxy for what should have been a political impeachment process they’re leaving to the criminal justice system, the failure of Congress to carry out a successful impeachment,” McCarthy said.The timing of each of the Smith indictments is very curious
None of that matters. Despite his mixed record Smith is going to prevail.
Chutkan was born in Jamaica and graduated from the University of Pennsylvania’s law school. She is married to former DC Superior Court Judge Peter Krauthamer.She over-punishes right wingers, especially those from Jan 6Her resume includes a previous job likely to attract significant attention from Trump allies. She worked at the law firm Boies Schiller Flexner from 2002 until she was confirmed as a federal judge in 2014, according to a biography she submitted to the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Boies Schiller has strong connections to the Democratic Party, and then-second son Hunter Biden — whose dad, President Biden, is likely to face Trump in the 2024 election — was of counsel at the firm from 2009 to 2014, according to OpenSecrets.
“Chutkan has handed out tougher sentences than the [Justice Department] was seeking in seven cases, matched its requests in four others and sent all 11 riot defendants who have come before her behind bars,” the AP wrote in a profile article last year.She, like Smith, is a rabid partisan hack. The evidence won't matter. Justice won't matter. The Constitution won't matter. Motions to change venue will be denied. Trump is not well liked in DC. The jury will be fixed.“In the four cases in which prosecutors did not seek jail time, Chutkan gave terms ranging from 14 days to 45 days.”
Trump will be convicted in this case. Chutkan is highly likely to sentence Trump to decades in prison adn taken into immediate custody. He will likely lose his appeal to the DC Circuit. But the news isn't all bad. The Supreme Court will see through this garbage and certainly overturn the case. But the point of the whole exercise is to keep Trump out of the race.
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The Obama asswipe judge won’t allow the Trump legal team to present a viable defense. There is no question a corrupt DC jury will vote guilty.
Yes, he will prevail in DC, but when it gets to SCOTUS it will be tossed out.
Anyone with a brain knows this is about politics and not justice - we know it and they know it. The case is laughable.
So even though they can easily find a jury in DC that will convict, the smart money will always be on the case eventually being thrown out.
There are lots of well respected legal pundits who may hate Trump, but they also don’t like to go on TV and make fools of themselves.
I think this case will be ridiculed every step of the way - and the public will see it for what it is.
I liked the meme: “Trump only several indictments away from clinching the nomination.”
“There is always appeals”.
Yes, Trump will eventually prevail in the appelate process, and would certainly prevail at the Supreme Court. That being said, he is certain to be convicted in D.C.
I remember in the spring of 1981 a young man shot Ronald Reagan and others in broad daylight and in front of cameras. Jim Brady eventually lost his life.
Predictably, the D.C. jurors found the shooter innocent by reason of insanity. Before the trial, I knew there was no way a D.C. jury would find someone guilty for shooting a Republican President. Expect the same treatment for Trump.
Never bet against America. Whoever wrote this doesn’t seem to have absorbed much of the available news.
Excellent point. They already tried that in the Senate and couldn’t find the evidence. It’s essentially a case of double Jeopardy. It will be interesting to watch.
The cold hard reality is that this stretch of a case is being brought in DC, a very politicized jurisdiction when it comes to district judges, appellate circuit and jury pools that have no problem spinning prosecutorial theory of the case legal straws, no matter how absurd, into gold to advance political interest. Not only can they indict a ham sandwich in DC but if the ham sandwich has Republican relish, a jury will convict it for you too.
I've heard at least three different lawyers say today that the trial won't be completed until after the election.
If that is the case, then Trump remains in the race and the voters (minus the Democrat cheating) will decide.
So it all comes down to the Democrat cheating.
"Wasn’t there a Supreme Court decision from around 1920, that it’s not illegal to question an election?"
Given allegations of ballot box fraud from the Trump Campaign for 2020 elections, including concerns about how electoral votes were counted, corrupt political party federal lawmakers wrongly ignored their oaths to protect and defend both the 12th Amendment (12A; electoral vote rules) and Section 2 of the 14th Amendment (14A), that section a penalty for states where ballot box fraud has occurred, when they voted to accept Biden's questionable electoral votes on J6.
Excerpted from 12A:
"The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice- President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate [emphasis added], ..."
Excerpted from 14A:
"Section 2: Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged [emphases added], except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State." [Section 2: Apportionment of Representatives]
"Section 5: The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article."
In fact, given the "hair trigger" wording in Section 2 penalty, if this were a better world, the federal government should be warning the states before every election that the feds will be darkening their doorway to investigate complaints about vote-counting problems.
"is denied to any"
"or in any way abridged,"
Regarding 12A electoral vote rules above, note that the states surrendered their power to make so-called "winner take all" laws for a state's electoral votes when they ratified that amendment imo, such laws a violation of that amendment imo. And the constitutionally undefined politically parties who have pirated control of state and federal governments been ignoring state non-compliance with 12A for a long time.
In fact, despite desperate Democratic "all votes count" mantra, Justice Joseph Story had later explained that when political parties divide a state's electoral votes, doing so weakens (obviously) a state's electoral votes for each candidate, similarly to when a state's federal senators vote yes and no on an issue, effectively cancelling each other's votes.
"In case of any party divisions in a state, it may neutralize its whole vote [emphasis added], while all the other states give an unbroken electoral vote." —Justice Joseph Story, Article 2, Section 1, Clauses 2 and 3, Commentaries on the Constitution 3, 1833."
Democratic and Republican Trump-supporting patriots need to start Trump's 2024 campaign by primarying all state and federal incumbent lawmakers and executives.
After all, incumbent politicians continue to show that they do not have the patriotism and leadership skills necessary to find legislative support for effective remedies for unconstitutional government policies.
Exclusive: Marjorie Taylor Greene ‘Dumbfounded’ GOP Colleagues Will Not Call for Biden’s Impeachment! (6.10.23)
The definition of insanity is reelecting your beloved career state and federal lawmakers and executives over and over again, expecting those same politicians to find remedies for unconstitutional government policies every time.
In fact, consider that since one of the very few powers that the states have expressly constitutionally given to the big, bad federal government to dictate peacetime domestic policy is to run the Mail Service (most federal domestic policy actually based on stolen state powers imo), the worst problem that the country would otherwise be looking at with a new Congress of Trump-supporting freshman lawmakers is arguably a delay with mail delivery.
"Article I, Section 8, Clause 7: To establish Post Offices and post Roads;"
"From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added]." —United States v. Butler, 1936.
Patriots, let's not allow ourselves to be fooled for a third time in 2024.
Because there isn’t a decision to review. The court can’t take hypotheticals. For example, while extremely unlikely, the jury “could” acquit Trump, or the judge “could” throw prosecutors’ evidence out. So the USSC and appellate courts must wait until they act.
No a president can question an election remember all the chad counting.
Chutkan is pro deep state Obama appointed her for a reason.
Yep.
2024 is battle over whether we have a party that represents the people or an oligarchy run by the political elite and its donors.
Under no circumstances should any patriot vote for anyone but Trump. You're voting for the demise of a representative republic if you do.
Smith has a problem in Florida, one jury member in a Red State could kill his case, He needs DC to get a conviction. While this Judge is a bitch, will she go along with this knowing she will be slapped down hard by SCOTUS? Her future as a judge and her reputation are at risk. Sending a protestor to prison is one thing, violating Trump's free speech could be grounds to remove her from the bench.
Everyone involved in this injustice should be brought up on charges of treason and since they are clearly guilty, they should be sentenced according to the crime committed. Pretty sure Treason carries a very stiff penalty.
Yep.
The future of the Republic literally lies with Trump. I wish it weren’t true. But if they take down Trump and rob him again of his Presidency and send him to jail, then the Republic is doomed.
Now is not the Time to be pimping for another Swamp creature.
At this moment, It is literally Trump or bust.
The future of the Republic literally lies with Trump.
George Washington had no victories prior to Trenton, yet his steadfast selflessness won our independence.
He was a lost cause to some.
When this is all said and done, President Donald John Trump will be spoken about in the same way.
Barnes Law last night on his podcast.
1) Almost no chance any trial wraps by election day. After that, or after Jan. 20, Trump will pardon himself if he loses.
2) All recent charges are idiotic, being violations of freedom of speech (Barnes has litigated MANY of these cases).
3) All recent charges merely repeat what he was already acquitted of in the Senate.
4) Motions to move the trial to FL, to get evidence (there is no “discovery” in a criminal trial, and prosecutors/judges often quash subpoenas-—see the Melania emails request by Smith that was quashed; other motions about jury pool Barnes said that denial of ANY of these could trigger a Supreme Court involvement.
5) Barnes in essence said, the more insane Smith is, the more likely the Supes will get involved sooner rather than later.
6) If Roberts is good for anything, he is big on the “integrity” of the Court (I know: the leaked Dobbs decision). Still this is something he takes offense to.
7) Also, other J6 petitioners appeals now may likely be fast tracked to Supes as more minor examples of prosecutorial overreach.
8) Put the chance of Trump even going to a jail at 10% to 0%.
So voter appeal, or equivalent voter alienation, can't possibly have anything to do with it?
I get it.
You think Biden legitimately won.
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