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Meat Grinder: Russia Claims 28,000 Ukrainians Dead in Second Month of Counter-Offensive, 1435 This Weekend alone
Gateway Pundit ^ | Jul. 31, 2023 | Richard Abelson

Posted on 07/31/2023 9:55:05 AM PDT by Kazan

Over 28,000 Ukrainian soldiers have died in the second month in the failing Ukrainian “counter-offensive“ with no air or artillery support, Russian Ministry of Defence Sergei Shoigu claimed. Shoigu previously put Ukrainians losses from the first month of the “counter-offensive“ at 26,000, as Gateway reported, putting the total Ukrainian dead since June 4 at 54.000. 1435 hapless Ukrainian young men died this weekend alone, according to the Russian Ministry of Defence.

“Over the past month, Ukrainian losses were up to twenty thousand eight hundred servicemen,” Shoigu claimed, speaking to the leadership of Russian Armed Forces: “20824 men and 2227 units of various weapons, to be precise, including 10 Leopard tanks, 11 U.S.-manufactured Bradley infantry fighting vehicle, 40 U.S.-manufactured M777 artillery systems and 50 self-propelled artillery systems from the U.K., the U.S., Germany, France and Poland.”

“For two days alone – 26 and 27 July – more than 400 Ukrainian servicemen, 31 tanks, including three German-manufactured Leopard and two French-manufactured tanks, as well as 32 armoured fighting vehicles were destroyed near Rabotino,” Shoigu claimed. “A total of 63 armoured vehicles were destroyed”.

“The command of the AFU (Armed Forces of Ukraine) is desperately sending new troops into the assault on Russian positions”, Shoigu asserted, which was thwarted by the “competently constructed defences” of the Russian forces, he claimed. “A large-scale attempt by Ukrainian troops to break through Russian defences was thwarted in Orekhov direction.”

The Russian Ministry of Defence further claimed that 725 Ukrainian soldiers were killed on July 30 and 710 on July 31 in fighting on the South Donetsk, Zaporozhye, Krasny Liman, Kherson and Kupyansk fronts, putting the weekend death toll at 1435.

A video from Russian Ria Novosti TV claimed to show a single Russian tank in the Zaporozhye region stopping a column of 10 Ukrainian vehicles. 7 of the vehicles were destroyed by the Tank firing from the cover of a hedgerow, the rest were eliminated by artillery and Lancet drones, RT claimed. The video has not been independently verified.

According to the Russian state-controlled Rossiyskaya Gazeta newspaper, the Ukrainian column included at least two tanks and five US-made MRAP M1224 MaxxPro vehicles. The Russian tank crew reportedly forced the Ukrainian group to enter a minefield, where some of their equipment was destroyed.

Russia and Ukraine allegedly reached a peace deal as early as March 2022, which was then torpedoed by the UK and US governments.


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KEYWORDS: failedproxywar; putinbot; russia; ukraine; war
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1 posted on 07/31/2023 9:55:05 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

Even if this is a propaganda number and the true number is only half or one-third of 28,000 that’s still a huge number compared to the size of Ukraine.


2 posted on 07/31/2023 9:58:19 AM PDT by srmanuel ( )
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To: srmanuel

Mostly foreigners though.


3 posted on 07/31/2023 9:59:11 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Kazan

The Democrats don’t care how many Ukrainians die to cover up Democrat crimes in Ukraine.


4 posted on 07/31/2023 10:06:27 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: Kazan
Young lives on both sides wasted and maimed, along with uncounted civilian casualties and misery over... what even in the ***k?

And nary a word about diplomacy, negotiation, or peace from "The West" or particularly from the Biden regime.

5 posted on 07/31/2023 10:12:27 AM PDT by OKSooner ("That's not my concern.")
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To: Kazan

Of course the Russians have never lied before!


6 posted on 07/31/2023 10:14:05 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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at this rate, they will run out of people.


7 posted on 07/31/2023 10:14:38 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Kazan

28,000 dead? How many more wounded but not dead? 5 to one ratio on a modern battlefield?

If these numbers are appropriately discounted for propaganda issues, these are still huge and unsustainable numbers. (I say “numbers,” but each one represents a living breathing man who had family and dreams.)


8 posted on 07/31/2023 10:16:36 AM PDT by oldplayer
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To: Kazan

28,000 is probably total casualties KIA, WIA, MIA and captured. My guess is total dead is 20% or around 6,000 KIA.


9 posted on 07/31/2023 10:17:38 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Kazan

There are going to be a lot more “Ukrainian women would like to meet US men” ads.


10 posted on 07/31/2023 10:19:02 AM PDT by alternatives?
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To: srmanuel

Ukraine is 43 million people. If half are male, and only 10% were military eligible, thats still 2 million capable defenders.


11 posted on 07/31/2023 10:24:57 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: alternatives?; Kazan
There are going to be a lot more “Ukrainian women would like to meet US men” ads.

Only the Ukrainian women that don't get press-ganged by the roving Ukie Azov guys.

12 posted on 07/31/2023 10:25:29 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Kazan

If the report is coming from the Russians, it must be true.

With all of those Russian claims of dead Ukes, the Ukes have nobody left to do battle, and in fact, may have gone into negative numbers in the number of dead. Russia has won, since they still have a few military personnel left after losing millions in battle. Next for the Russians: Poland and Finland. Easy pickings.


13 posted on 07/31/2023 10:25:49 AM PDT by adorno
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To: Magnum44

Reports are that a minimum of 8 million have fled the country.

It’s still a huge number regardless, given the size of Ukraine.


14 posted on 07/31/2023 10:28:11 AM PDT by srmanuel ( )
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To: Kazan

First those numbers are preposterous and second even if true Russia would run out of military equipment long before Ukraine did and second here is a little historical context. In 1914 France had a population of 39.5 million almost the same as Ukrainians pre-war population of just over 40 million. France suffered 1.1 million combat deaths, and hundreds of thousands dead from disease and still won the war long after Russia was forced to throw in the towel. Russian logistics, combat trading, thinking and political stability have not improved any in the last 100 years. Wars are won based on industrial and technological capabilities not population differentials. Russia and Ukrain are both second world countries but Ukrain is backed by NATO and the EU thus ensuring it will never be outgunned or out etched. Russia on the other hand is friendless unless you think Iran is a reliable ally in which case God help you.


15 posted on 07/31/2023 10:30:13 AM PDT by your other brother
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To: Magnum44

According to the article, since June, 54,000 have died or 2.7% of your 2 million estimate. Do you think we would still be sending military aid to Ukraine had 2.7% of our Senators and Representatives been killed in the war since June?


16 posted on 07/31/2023 10:38:10 AM PDT by alternatives?
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To: adorno

Agree. Fight on! More men to the front.


17 posted on 07/31/2023 10:38:38 AM PDT by Partisan Hack
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To: Kazan

And Russian losses are still under 10k? I believe that like I believe 5,000 Covid deaths in China.

Propaganda is the use of extremes.


18 posted on 07/31/2023 10:39:29 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: alternatives?
Russian Ministry of Defence Sergei Shoigu claimed

Not much point in trying to answer your question when the basis of the question comes from a propaganda outlet. That aside, its a silly question.

19 posted on 07/31/2023 10:41:01 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: alternatives?
...had 2.7% of our Senators and Representatives been killed...

It's a start!

20 posted on 07/31/2023 10:42:16 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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