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1 posted on 07/26/2023 5:47:11 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: Trump20162020

“...even though Georgia election officials insisted it showed nothing out of the ordinary.”

Isn’t that our point?


2 posted on 07/26/2023 5:51:25 PM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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To: Trump20162020

So why lie when truth is so abundant? Was he given incorrect information?


3 posted on 07/26/2023 5:52:41 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: Trump20162020
Not a big enough story to knock the Hunter stuff off the air. A couple of stations will begin to report as breaking news what we already knew. No way to avoid or twist words. Not much the Democrats in the hearing can say “but Trump” won't cut it.
8 posted on 07/26/2023 6:11:08 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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Rudy’s side of the story:

Rudy W. Giuliani @RudyGiuliani 🚨CORRECTING THE RECORD🚨

The Fake News says I admitted to lying in an overnight court filing. I didn’t.

We are simply moving to a point in the case where we can file a motion to dismiss.

If you see a headline claiming I made an admission, just know it is #FakeNews.

Embedded video

5:01 PM · Jul 26, 2023

https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1684307957419241474


9 posted on 07/26/2023 6:11:30 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Trump20162020

He didn’t say he lied. He said he was giving his opinion.


11 posted on 07/26/2023 6:14:59 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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People were actually commiting election fraud. You dont have to lie about people who weren’t Rudy. Cripes.

So what? So you make everyone who believed you out to be dupes for believing you? You could have actually just targeted some of the people there who actuzlly did election fraud. They were all over. How about that.


12 posted on 07/26/2023 6:15:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Trump20162020
First, the headline is a lie. There is no way Giuliani said he lied, so what. Secondly, the question is, what if anything, he got wrong.

We all saw the video of ballots being pulled out from under table and run multiple times each.

https://nationalfile.com/video-georgia-poll-worker-ruby-freeman-runs-same-ballots-through-tabulation-machine-multiple-times/

Ruby Freeman was left unsupervised while repeatedly scanning the same ballot stacks for at least two minutes per the video footage isolated by National File.

13 posted on 07/26/2023 6:16:06 PM PDT by Kazan
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Giuliani was totally the wrong attorney to be leading the effort regarding election / voting fraud. He has minimal experience in that area of law and listened to the likes of Sidney Powell. What a clown.


14 posted on 07/26/2023 6:16:46 PM PDT by Fury
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Unfortunately, government bureaucrats set their scales of "just us" for terms "supervised" and "monitored" to be "the cameras were working."

The government bureaucrat management (bureaucrats) are inclined to not take a closer look as long as their word choices satisfy some interpretation of the law or regulations that the progressive press will echo in support.

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12/03/2020 Video of room where vote ballots were counted at Fulton County, "Hawk's" State Farm Arena, Atlanta, Georgia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c3-QiNLI7M

EXCERPTS of comments by "brandaugment6492" who is critical of Jacki Lynn Pick's explanation:

FYI, there are officials with direct knowledge of ballot-processing procedures, some of whom were in these rooms, some of whom gave instructions to workers, who are now investigating the events and allegations about this video so they can fill in more detail on what happened that day. I think reasonable people would want to hear both sides of the story and they will probably come out within the next few days.

Additional videos:

- About 2 minutes of video footage that was allegedly on the laptop on Ruby Freeman's desk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvRGiFbYlJc
(the person who posted this suggested that the objects passed between Ruby and Shaye Moss may have been smoking-related as it was a nonsmoking facility).
(NOTE: That video is no longer available at YouTube.)
- A four-hour video of ballot-processing during the day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhyT-bwYFLY
(includes footage of [Ruby] Freeman)
If you go to the 3:25:15 mark on the long video, you can see one of the bigger machines used in the process.

There's a video on social media that a Fulton county poll worker crumpled up a ballot. The worker was a 'cutter' (the person who opens the outer envelope and removes the inner envelope). The ballot was still in the inner envelope. The paper the worker crumpled was half the size of a ballot (the director identified it as a sheet of instructions). Someone re-captioned the video to make it look like the person had destroyed a ballot.

The cutters are told that they may go home (some have been there since very early in the morning) and they can be seen packing up just before 10:00 pm.

Recap of bins:

5:55 A woman in white (Supervisor of Registration) pulls a bin from under the table (looks like it might be empty? and puts the lid on top).
6:04 The man in a suit takes off his jacket (it's now easy to see his red shirt). In a few instances he makes hand gestures (talking to people?).
6:05 A woman in yellow pulls a bin from under the table and takes it to a desk.
6:16 The woman in white ([election] supervisor) pulls a bin from under the table and takes it to a desk.
6:31 The man in red puts something in his pocket? or tucks his shirt, pulls out a bin from under the table, pauses (like he might be saying something?) and takes it to a desk.
At each desk workers are now processing stacks of papers (scanning them?).

The voice-over says that they are counting ballots, but it's possible these were already counted earlier and these sheets are being scanned. The large gray machines (lower left) have been covered over with cloths. I would like to know the purpose of the large machines (cutting machines maybe?) and the small machines on the desks (each district has slightly different arrangements and models of machines so you can't always tell which is which from an overhead shot). Are they scanners? tabulators? something else?

Elections officials are saying that after the majority of workers had finished their job of opening envelopes, that they left, and poll watchers and press left with them voluntarily, not because they were told to leave. (On a different occasion, they may have been asked to leave for 2 hours because there was a pipe leaking water.)

The State elections monitor was there just before midnight and he says he didn't see any irregular activities.

The workers are not "unobserved" as J. Picks states in the commentary, they are on video. They know there is video security.

There are conflicting stories about whether people were told to "clear out". When there was a water leak problem, this may have happened, but that is not the same as what happened at the end of the day in this video. Many of the workers had finished, and the press and poll watchers left with them.

I'm in favor of elections security and working to make systems fair and accurate, but this commentary is biased and based on incomplete and sometimes erroneous information (plus an assumption of guilt).

About observers and that remark by brandaugment6492, "Robert-lw2tt" replied to brandaugment6492:

State officials have already admitted that there were no observers there like they originally said. Look it up.

Then brandaugment6492 replied to Robert-lw2tt:

In the state of Georgia, poll watchers are permitted but not required by law. I looked up the laws and it says "may" not "shall". So, even though I think poll watchers should be present, they were not breaking the law by continuing to work when the call came in asking them if they could put in a few more hours.

Then Robert-lw2tt replied to brandaugment6492:

Very shady how they sat quietly until everyone left. Have you seen the video of Ruby [Freeman] and her daughter secretly passing the USB drive?

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Were Georgia monitors sent home? State officials clash with Trump team over chain of events [by Barnini Chakraborty, Washington Examiner, 12/07/2020]

EXCERPTS:

[Jacki Lynn] Pick said the video showed a staff member telling observers to leave around 10:30 p.m., and that after they left, four election workers stayed behind to count the hidden batch for two hours without any witnesses present.

Richard Barron, Fulton County elections director, pushed back on those claims Friday and said no observers were explicitly told to leave but that some had started to go after they finished their work. As more and more people started to call it a night, they put prepared ballots back in boxes and away under a table to "close out" for the evening.

At that point, election observers and members of the media also started to leave. Then, the election supervisor on site got a call from [Richard] Barron, who told the team to keep scanning the ballots that had already been prepared. Gabriel Sterling, a top election official in Georgia, said it was then that workers pulled the boxes of ballots back out and continued scanning.

Another video, 3:16 minutes:
Georgia election officials shows frame-by-frame of State Farm Arena Election Night video | WSB-TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-9jFuieH_U

25 posted on 07/26/2023 7:05:55 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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Admitting a statement was an opinion, based on the information known at the time, is not the same as admitting a lie.


27 posted on 07/26/2023 7:30:37 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Trump20162020

Just more media lies.


31 posted on 07/26/2023 7:52:21 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Trump20162020

this has already been debunked as fabricated “news” ...


32 posted on 07/26/2023 7:56:53 PM PDT by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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Giuliani should now sue Ed Morrissey and Hot Air. He did not say his statements were false; he stated that for the purposes of the current court matter, he would not contest claims that they were false. Big difference.


36 posted on 07/26/2023 9:02:34 PM PDT by dangus
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Gee wasn’t that the famous pipe leak, “closed” election counting location were the camera caught election workers dealing with “ballots” out of sight of pole watchers? So how else lied? 🧐


38 posted on 07/26/2023 10:02:46 PM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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Schiff

Shove it up your ass.


41 posted on 07/27/2023 12:30:09 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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To: Trump20162020

It’s a shame that Trump hasn’t surrounded himself with such honest and upright citizens like Karl Rove,Jeb Bush and Paul Ryan.


42 posted on 07/27/2023 12:31:49 AM PDT by Trump_Triumphant ("Our hearts are restless, Oh Lord, until they rest in thee"- St. Augustine)
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To: Trump20162020

No, he didn’t.

Meanwhile, from NYS...

https://www.weny.com/story/49266248/legislation-to-increase-early-voting-access-by-mail

If you’re able-bodied and are loyal to our former republic, don’t vote by mail, or early.


43 posted on 07/27/2023 3:32:24 PM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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