Posted on 07/26/2023 5:47:11 PM PDT by Trump20162020
In a court filing last night, Rudy Giuliani admitted he lied about a key allegation that fueled the “Stop the Steal” movement in Georgia. Giuliani and others in Donald Trump’s post-election efforts accused two election workers — a mother and daughter — of manipulating ballots to wipe out Trump votes. A video of the ballot processing fueled this allegation, even though Georgia election officials insisted it showed nothing out of the ordinary.
Giuliani admitted to making false statements in accusing the two women, who are suing him for defamation. But Giuliani asserts in the same filing that he has a First Amendment right to, er … promote falsehoods, or something:
Rudolph W. Giuliani has admitted that while acting as a lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump, he made false statements in asserting that two Georgia election workers had mishandled ballots while counting votes in Atlanta during the 2020 election.
The admission by Mr. Giuliani came in court papers filed on Tuesday night as part of a defamation lawsuit that the two workers, Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss, had brought against him in Federal District Court in Washington in December 2021.
In fact, Giuliani even admits in the filing that his statements were “defamatory per se,” and that they were both false and “actionable,” and that he was no longer disputing the factual allegations made by the two women. That in itself might be news to people who have stood by the claims made by Giuliani and Team Trump for more than two and a half years. Many of them refused to believe efforts to debunk these claims because Trump’s attorneys kept asserting them as fact, especially Giuliani.
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Thanks for your concern. It’s always helpful.
Obscure?
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I’m sure it’ll be all over the nightly news.(sarcasm)
People consumed by politics in their everyday life might care, everybody else.....yawn... zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
That’s what I saw.
The whole damn thing was a setup. The broken water main story was an admitted falsehood (aka “a lie”) and as soon as the obervers left the building these two pulled out the case, pulled out the “ballots” and started running them thru multiple times.
We’re supposed to believe some phony doctored version laundered through a leftist court? Or our own lying eyes?
Giuliani was making a legal statement: it’s his opinion.
“People consumed by politics in their everyday life might care, everybody else...yawn..zzzzzzzz”
Says the person who criticized it because it was posted by a DeSantis supporter to “throw shade” on Trump. Doesn’t sound like you were yawning.
The government bureaucrat management (bureaucrats) are inclined to not take a closer look as long as their word choices satisfy some interpretation of the law or regulations that the progressive press will echo in support.
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12/03/2020 Video of room where vote ballots were counted at Fulton County, "Hawk's" State Farm Arena, Atlanta, Georgia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c3-QiNLI7M
EXCERPTS of comments by "brandaugment6492" who is critical of Jacki Lynn Pick's explanation:
FYI, there are officials with direct knowledge of ballot-processing procedures, some of whom were in these rooms, some of whom gave instructions to workers, who are now investigating the events and allegations about this video so they can fill in more detail on what happened that day. I think reasonable people would want to hear both sides of the story and they will probably come out within the next few days.
Additional videos:
- About 2 minutes of video footage that was allegedly on the laptop on Ruby Freeman's desk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvRGiFbYlJc
(the person who posted this suggested that the objects passed between Ruby and Shaye Moss may have been smoking-related as it was a nonsmoking facility).
(NOTE: That video is no longer available at YouTube.)
- A four-hour video of ballot-processing during the day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhyT-bwYFLY
(includes footage of [Ruby] Freeman)
If you go to the 3:25:15 mark on the long video, you can see one of the bigger machines used in the process.There's a video on social media that a Fulton county poll worker crumpled up a ballot. The worker was a 'cutter' (the person who opens the outer envelope and removes the inner envelope). The ballot was still in the inner envelope. The paper the worker crumpled was half the size of a ballot (the director identified it as a sheet of instructions). Someone re-captioned the video to make it look like the person had destroyed a ballot.
The cutters are told that they may go home (some have been there since very early in the morning) and they can be seen packing up just before 10:00 pm.
Recap of bins:
5:55 A woman in white (Supervisor of Registration) pulls a bin from under the table (looks like it might be empty? and puts the lid on top).
6:04 The man in a suit takes off his jacket (it's now easy to see his red shirt). In a few instances he makes hand gestures (talking to people?).
6:05 A woman in yellow pulls a bin from under the table and takes it to a desk.
6:16 The woman in white ([election] supervisor) pulls a bin from under the table and takes it to a desk.
6:31 The man in red puts something in his pocket? or tucks his shirt, pulls out a bin from under the table, pauses (like he might be saying something?) and takes it to a desk.
At each desk workers are now processing stacks of papers (scanning them?).The voice-over says that they are counting ballots, but it's possible these were already counted earlier and these sheets are being scanned. The large gray machines (lower left) have been covered over with cloths. I would like to know the purpose of the large machines (cutting machines maybe?) and the small machines on the desks (each district has slightly different arrangements and models of machines so you can't always tell which is which from an overhead shot). Are they scanners? tabulators? something else?
Elections officials are saying that after the majority of workers had finished their job of opening envelopes, that they left, and poll watchers and press left with them voluntarily, not because they were told to leave. (On a different occasion, they may have been asked to leave for 2 hours because there was a pipe leaking water.)
The State elections monitor was there just before midnight and he says he didn't see any irregular activities.
The workers are not "unobserved" as J. Picks states in the commentary, they are on video. They know there is video security.
There are conflicting stories about whether people were told to "clear out". When there was a water leak problem, this may have happened, but that is not the same as what happened at the end of the day in this video. Many of the workers had finished, and the press and poll watchers left with them.
I'm in favor of elections security and working to make systems fair and accurate, but this commentary is biased and based on incomplete and sometimes erroneous information (plus an assumption of guilt).
About observers and that remark by brandaugment6492, "Robert-lw2tt" replied to brandaugment6492:
State officials have already admitted that there were no observers there like they originally said. Look it up.
Then brandaugment6492 replied to Robert-lw2tt:
In the state of Georgia, poll watchers are permitted but not required by law. I looked up the laws and it says "may" not "shall". So, even though I think poll watchers should be present, they were not breaking the law by continuing to work when the call came in asking them if they could put in a few more hours.
Then Robert-lw2tt replied to brandaugment6492:
Very shady how they sat quietly until everyone left. Have you seen the video of Ruby [Freeman] and her daughter secretly passing the USB drive?
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Were Georgia monitors sent home? State officials clash with Trump team over chain of events [by Barnini Chakraborty, Washington Examiner, 12/07/2020]
EXCERPTS:
[Jacki Lynn] Pick said the video showed a staff member telling observers to leave around 10:30 p.m., and that after they left, four election workers stayed behind to count the hidden batch for two hours without any witnesses present.
Richard Barron, Fulton County elections director, pushed back on those claims Friday and said no observers were explicitly told to leave but that some had started to go after they finished their work. As more and more people started to call it a night, they put prepared ballots back in boxes and away under a table to "close out" for the evening.
At that point, election observers and members of the media also started to leave. Then, the election supervisor on site got a call from [Richard] Barron, who told the team to keep scanning the ballots that had already been prepared. Gabriel Sterling, a top election official in Georgia, said it was then that workers pulled the boxes of ballots back out and continued scanning.
Another video, 3:16 minutes:
Georgia election officials shows frame-by-frame of State Farm Arena Election Night video | WSB-TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-9jFuieH_U
LOL. I thank you!
Admitting a statement was an opinion, based on the information known at the time, is not the same as admitting a lie.
What does the actual text say? This article gives opinions and summaries of what he supposedly said in the filings...I would like to see what was said unedited. If there was a link I overlooked it.
Sure /s
Just more media lies.
this has already been debunked as fabricated “news” ...
He's here to get some sucker punches and kicks to the ribs in on the Trump people.
He's got more of an agenda than the original poster of the article...
It’s always the same 3 or 4 fecesbirds on these threads, gracing us with their Infinite Knowledge.
Odd, too, how these same ones attempt to be *experts* on so many DS topics/stances.
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😂
Giuliani should now sue Ed Morrissey and Hot Air. He did not say his statements were false; he stated that for the purposes of the current court matter, he would not contest claims that they were false. Big difference.
Go support your little boy. You can offer your shoulder for him to cry on.
Gee wasn’t that the famous pipe leak, “closed” election counting location were the camera caught election workers dealing with “ballots” out of sight of pole watchers? So how else lied? 🧐
I think the The Biden lies are damaging to the country. This is small potatoes at best.
That’s good enough for me.
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