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More Sources Step Forward to Say U.S. Gov’t Is in Possession of ’12-15 Non-Human’ Spacecraft.
PatriotandLiberty ^ | 7/23 | Rick Moran

Posted on 07/11/2023 1:35:09 AM PDT by spirited irish

This is either another elaborate UFO hoax by the government, using unwitting dupes to tell a fantastical story, or…

…the U.S. government has in its possession 12-15 “non-human” spacecraft that prove the existence beyond any doubt that there is life elsewhere in the universe.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; UFO's
KEYWORDS: boblazar; clickbaitadspam; conspiracy; fringe; joerogan; nonsense; ohsomysteriouso; rickmoran; tuckercarlson; ufo; ufos
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To: cgbg; RoosterRedux

Yes! It isn’t certain that we originated here, or weren’t cultivated. At this point we’ve lost the sides to our comfortable little box. It is fascinating, but not terrifying as it seems for some.


141 posted on 07/11/2023 9:59:55 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: RoosterRedux

R & J is a good example of the confusion about cigars.

The brand you were smoking were Dominican—the brand Churchill smoked were Cuban.

After the Commies took over Cuba the previous holders of the R & J copyright fled and kept the name of the brand while starting to use Dominican tobacco. Their copyright was upheld in US courts—though of course Cuba refused to recognize the refugee’s copyright. Therefore there are two radically different versions of R & Js—very confusing. The Dominican R & J marketers love to muddy the waters by claiming their version is “cubanesque”. They are lying.

The Cuban R & J is illegal in the US.

The Cuban R & J has had varying quality over recent decades—when they are “on” they have an intoxicating cherry taste—when they are off they are just tasteless tobacco.

The Dominican R & J uses wrappers from other locations—sometimes CT, sometimes Ecuador—and they are just OK (imho) even at their best.

Further muddying the waters is the world of “fake” Cubans—particularly common in Mexico and the Caribbean.

The real Cubans can be ordered online from European suppliers—though occasionally US customs will seize the contraband.


142 posted on 07/11/2023 10:00:42 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Hiddigeigei

Perhaps some are automated and subject to accidents. Super sophisticated equipment is subject to breakdowns. We can’t even keep our F-35s from augering in on our own planet in our own atmosphere. Why would theirs be perfect following such travel? Also, we might be shooting them down.


143 posted on 07/11/2023 10:03:56 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: cgbg
There are many people who claim to have been contacted by aliens.

The problem I have is where is the tangible evidence?

Where is the body of a Bigfoot?

Where is the carcass of a Loch Ness Monster?

Where is a crashed alien spacecraft?

144 posted on 07/11/2023 10:05:03 AM PDT by fso301
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To: x

God Created us in his own image. Did he throw the plans away, or reuse them? Think of Torrie Homes or Waffle Houses.


145 posted on 07/11/2023 10:06:21 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: fso301

The cabal has been working twenty four/seven for decades to cover up “hard evidence” of anything that would “break” the narrative of the brainwashing.

They have done a reasonably good job with that effort.


146 posted on 07/11/2023 10:08:00 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: RoosterRedux
First, there is nothing about this story that is inconsistent with the Biblical narrative (however much some people are going to be shocked by the parallels). In fact, there is a Christian contingent of generals in the Pentagon who say we should stay away from this subject because they are demons.

OK.

Second, discussions of this issue aren't coming from the Left. They are coming mostly from non-political whistleblowers in the military and Republicans in Congress.

I understand the Left isn't exclusive in this discussion.

Third, the UFO issue has been stigmatized as "silly" at best and "crazy" at worst such that anyone reporting UFO in the military has lost their position (particularly pilots), credentials, and most certainly any security clearances that they might have had.

I was not aware of that. So you are saying those F-18 pilots a few years ago that sighted and pursued one, or more UFOs off the Coast of Southern California were subsequently sacked? I did see the tracking video. It bore all the hallmarks of UFO/Bigfoot video by being blurry and indistinct.

Fourth, the media has supported the military in stigmatizing the issue and marginalized anyone who tried to report or write about this issue (outside of fringe sci-fi or hobbyist publications).

Well, the planet is a big place. Is there some good reason these alien craft never seem to crash anywhere other than inaccessible regions of the United States accessible exclusively by covert US Government elements?

What went wrong with alien quality control? Why did these alien craft only start crashing in the past 70 years?

Why haven't these alien craft crashed elsewhere throughout history and at least some of the crash sites preserved by locals as shrines?

Why have no crash sites been discovered by modern relic hunters scouring remotest regions of the globe to retrieve and restore crashed warbirds?

?

147 posted on 07/11/2023 10:09:55 AM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301

“Why did these alien craft only start crashing in the past 70 years?”

Good question.

One explanation is that modern radar and other military technology can affect the craft in various ways. That is why many of the crashes are near military bases and not just in random locations.


148 posted on 07/11/2023 10:16:02 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

We have never even observed life spontaneously creating itself from dead elements on this planet.


149 posted on 07/11/2023 10:24:11 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: RoosterRedux

>>> I have noticed people still suggesting “extraterrestrials from distance star systems.”

Hollywood has been setting up society for this narrative for several decades to easily convince those left behind that it WASN’T the rapture.

AND... they’ve been dumbing DOWN society at the same time, to the point they will believe just about anything they are told to... (safe and effective.. cough cough)


150 posted on 07/11/2023 10:28:17 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: fso301
how, in a sterile pre-biotic environment does life first begin?

The same way Earth did....

151 posted on 07/11/2023 10:43:32 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: fso301
Good questions. I'll try my best to answer the following one.

So you are saying those F-18 pilots a few years ago that sighted and pursued one, or more UFOs off the Coast of Southern California were subsequently sacked?

The pilots who sighted and pursued the tic-tacs off San Diego (and the radarmen involved) were all separated from the Navy or retired when the videos were leaked to Chris Mellon, a former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence. Mellon took the videos to some very solid reporters (Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal) who wrote the story and got it published in the NY Times (to the Time's regret).

The videos leaked are the worst of the bunch according to members of Congressional intel committees who have now seen the classified versions (classified because of the sensors/cameras that recorded them on F-18's and the USS Nimitz & Princeton).

The pilots and radarmen only went public after the Pentagon confessed the videos were real and indicated that they would not take action against anyone involved including pilots and radarmen.

Regarding crashed vehicles, I'll let someone else answer that question. I think you raise valid points but I don't have the answers.

As an aside, though whistleblowers recently have been talking about recovered vehicles, this hasn't been a major part of the discussion until recently and very little is known about it. Ergo, I'm not sure quite what to think of this matter.

152 posted on 07/11/2023 10:44:49 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: kjam22
We have never even observed life spontaneously creating itself from dead elements on this planet.

You're right, we haven't. Good observation....

153 posted on 07/11/2023 10:45:19 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: cgbg

Do you have a recommendation for a good cigar to replace the R & J? And a good online source?


154 posted on 07/11/2023 10:46:43 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Boogieman

LOL! Damn autocorrect...yes, unable to be assailed...he’s a good guy.


155 posted on 07/11/2023 10:47:39 AM PDT by jagusafr ( )
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To: RoosterRedux

Cubans are double, triple of even higher—compared with prices just a couple of years ago—and worse yet the European online stores normally require box purchases to get them—and there us a scarcity of previously widely available brands—so it is a terrible time to start with Cubans. (The Cuban economy is in a state of total collapse.) Some of my favorite vendors do not even accept new customers from the US.

So—I would recommend going non-Cuban at this time.

The best non-Cuban source is to get on the mailing list of these guys—amazing sales:

https://www.cigarpage.com/

You cannot go wrong with any non-Cuban from Dunbarton or Foundation.

You can order five packs to sample them and see what you like.


156 posted on 07/11/2023 10:55:53 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
The same way Earth did.

Yet no scientist has a clue adding on what Miller & Urey did in 1952.

Anyone can create an impressive cartoon animation the sort of which appear in all biology texts.

Where has any scientist shown how the simplest of cells could assemble from ingredients likely to have been available in a sterile, highly reducing environment?

157 posted on 07/11/2023 10:56:40 AM PDT by fso301
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To: DugwayDuke

It might even be some sort of cruel hoax.


158 posted on 07/11/2023 11:06:52 AM PDT by HandyDandy
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To: yelostar

Interesting! Thanks.


159 posted on 07/11/2023 11:52:24 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: cgbg

Excellent. Thx much!


160 posted on 07/11/2023 12:27:36 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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