Douglas Macgregor & James Patrick: The Russia's breakout offensive

You Tube ^ | 7/3/2023 | Douglas Macgregor

[Ronaldus Magnus]

Thank you for the excellent detailed summary! Everyone who posts a video should be required to do this.

[ScottinVA]

Yeah.. I’m sure.

MacGregor has been laughable in his “assessments” and bungled predictions about Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. But then he’s not one to show much reflection… he just moves on to the next attempt at analysis.

[MeganC]

If Macgregor said alcohol stocks were good I’d short them.

[silverleaf]

And the British navy now has more Admirals than ships.
So.

Much of the training of military leaders for a hundred years or more has focused on MacKinder, not Mahan. England’s “ Great Game” now continued.

Look at the strategic positioning of western military bases to encircle the Eurasian landmass and contain the Heartland. Which the Russian-Chinese-Iran strategic partnership threatens to break out via the One Belt project.

[buwaya]

US shipyard capacity is more than sufficient to build steel sufficient to need. That is NOT the critical path problem in building out the Navy. The big deals are:

a.) Tech system development. What are you going to put in these hulls? Every aerospace and electronics contractor is going all out right now.

b.) Operating costs. Personnel take up the bulk of every budget. Who is going to man those hulls? Worse, who is going to maintain them, and all their tech?

c.) Procurement inefficiency.

Conversely, the US and its Euro/Asian allies have an enormous aerospace production capacity, dwarfing both Russia and China by an order of magnitude, or more. Consider the civil aircraft business, just for starters. The US alone is building 150+ F-35’s annually (as of 2022), which on its own is 5x Russias rate of production of front line aircraft.

[ansel12]

“”””Macgregor then asks: what is the goal of the West in Ukraine - destroy Russia? “”””

What does not wanting Russia to conquer Ukraine, or at least not easily, have to do with “destroying” Russia?

[AndyJackson]

We aren’t fighting in Ukraine

Funniest thing I read all day. We weren't fighting in Vietnam either until suddenly things were going so badly that we rushed in 500,000 troops. That's when it really went south.

What do Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Ukraine have in common. We had no idea what victory would look like not one that was achievable with the means that we were willing to put in?

Great book for warmongers:

It's a pretty good book about how not to get into a war you are going to lose by not winning it, which is our sad history for a long time.

[buwaya]

The Eurasian land mass is a fiction, strategically and economically.

Look at markets, rather. Everyone there depends on access to foreign markets. What are those markets, and how are they going to get to them?

China has so far failed to generate enough domestic demand to sustain its industries.

[freeandfreezing]

Have you ever asked yourself, what is that motivation of somebody like MacGregor to make the statements he does?

[AndyJackson]

What does not wanting Russia to conquer Ukraine, or at least not easily, have to do with “destroying” Russia?

Turn that around. What does trying to destroy Russia have to do with why Ukraine isn't turning out the way we hoped?

What would victory look like to "destroy" Russia?

What would Putin do if the thought Russia was coming to an end [see list of really horrible nasty weapons to inundate - in its literal meaning - the east coast of the US in tidal waves that the Russians have].

[freeandfreezing]

Conversely, the US and its Euro/Asian allies have an enormous aerospace production capacity

An even more dramatic comparison is the number of current generation IC fabrication plants in the US, Europe, Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan compared to Russia.

There is a reason Russia needs to import all of its high performance semiconductors.

[buwaya]

And the British are a cherry-picked case.
Why not consider the Japanese?
Or better, consider all the US allied fleets.

[Eagles6]

He has been wrong about lots, well before this.

He's a russian propagandist, like Ritter and Lancaster.

One lie they repeat is that the breakaway areas are "russian".

Lugansk and Donetsk oblasts have never been majority ethnic russian, from the time Catherine the Great annexed the region, in the late 18th century, through the Tsar, the Soviets, the fall of the USSR.

Ethnic russians never made up more than 35%.

They may have a majority, now that they've had 10 years to ethnically cleanse the Ukrainians.

Also, if they're fighting NATO, where is our airpower, navies, troops?

[freeandfreezing]

why Ukraine isn't turning out the way we hoped

Huh? Who hoped for anything other than Ukraine not getting conquered by Russia?

[Republican Wildcat]

Yesterday and many other times going back the past 16 months. The war would be over in mere days, Ukraine has completely collapsed, etc...for 16 months. Yet he continues to be posted as a credible and authoritative source.

[Reverend Wright]

Yeah, US shipbuilding is all set.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lorenthompson/2021/07/23/us-shipbuilding-is-at-its-lowest-ebb-ever-how-did-america-fall-so-far/?sh=32f874e66c87

[AndyJackson]

Yes, I have. He asks a lot of questions about strategic analysis, the kinds of questions that you are taught to ask in Strategy courses - not that his detractors here ever took one.

The problem is that no one likes the questions because they are too hard or the answers are too uncomfortable. So you get idiots like Blinken and Nuland and Jake Sullivan running the show. And then you get surprise when you cannot counterattack against Russian fortified positions without losing lots and lots of men.

Which is about the outcome that anyone who actually looked serioursly at what the Russians do when the fight wars. No one who knew much about Russia should have been surprised at their overwhelming overmatch of the West in artillery. Our military wasn't either. They just thought Russia couldn't keep it up because they couldn't manufacture much. After all the west can't and Russia is inferior to the west in manufacturing so Russia can't. That is what passes for analysis here in DC.

[buwaya]

This is not an existential war for Russia.

They can leave Ukraine and go back to the status quo as of 2014, which was pretty good for Russia as I recall. Albeit with a large haircut in their offshore public and private assets.

[AndyJackson]

All the guys who invented the strategy for how Ukraine was going to lead to the break up of the Russian federation. All those guys [see idiots in NATO, EU and running the show in DC].

[Firehath]

democrate

liberte

fraternite

equalite

diversite

world liberal communism

is what this war is all about

atheism - marxism

antichrist crusade war on Jews - Christians

planting their rainbow flag

gay lighting the Kremlin - red square - temple mount