Posted on 06/10/2023 6:10:51 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
Yes, it’s true, according to the information contained in the Jack Smith indictment of President Donald John Trump, The Conservative Treehouse likely holds similar “classified documents” as outlined in the case by the special prosecutor.
Once you understand how, you then understand one of the most overlooked nonsensical aspects to the insufferable DOJ and FBI case that has been pushed in the media for the past year.
It is entirely possible for a person, any person, especially a person who follows the news, to possess documents containing “classified markings.” The indictment accuses President Trump of withholding documents containing “classified markings,” a very specifically deployed obtuse wording intended to create the implication of something nefarious where nothing nefarious exists.
There is a big difference between a classified document and a document containing classified markings. As an example, anyone who has looked at the Carter Page FISA application, made public in July 2018, has reviewed a document containing “classified markings.” When a document is declassified, they do not remove the markings.
You might think this is a one-off use of the “documents with classification markings” lingo, but it’s not. This language is the underpinning of the entire DOJ/FBI framework that predicated the raid on Mar-a-Lago. Specifically, neither NARA nor the DOJ-NSD requested President Trump or his team to return Classified Documents. The DOJ demanded the return of any documents that contained “classified markings.” [SEE BELOW]
Because the verbiage is so intentionally obtuse (ie. Lawfare), a fulsome production in compliance with this DOJ demand would include any newspaper or magazine articles that had a picture of the Carter Page FISA application, or any printed online article that might contain the same or similar elements. There is a big difference between asking for a classified document return, and asking for a return of documents that contain “classified markings.” [Example from CTH, below left]
As a result, it is entirely possible, I would say almost certain, that President Trump -and his legal team- returned every document that contained classified information but may have omitted documents that retained “classified markings”. There’s the spirit of compliance, and the letter of absolute compliance when contrast against a very granular interpretation of the request.
It is obvious from the demand, the DOJ/FBI were casting a wide net on the compliance side, knowing that amid hundreds-of-thousands of presidential documents and records, there would be obscure documents with classified markings that had nothing to do with national security. Thus, the “classified markings” establishes a Lawfare compliance tactic.
It will be interesting to see how this nonsense progresses. It becomes easier to call it nonsense, when you simply accept the approach being used. If the DOJ-NSD, FBI, Special Counsel or NARA were genuinely interested in ‘national security issues’, they would not be playing obtuse word games in order to structure court filings simply for media narrative engineering and propaganda purposes.
Again, all of these insufferable pretending elements simply create more avenues for smart legal minds to highlight to the court. The judges can see through this nonsense, and their action or lack thereof becomes part of showcasing their own agenda. Fortunately Judge Cannon has a very solid background on the Mar-a-Lago documents case. She wouldn’t need to have this stuff pointed out to her; she has already experienced it.
In the interim, for your own conversational points with friends and family, simply draw their attention to the difference between Classified Documents and documents containing “classified markings,” eventually everyone except the rabid orange-man-bad moonbats will figure out the games being played.
AS I SAID IN POST 48... “Goof was a typo... I was trying to type in good which was error corrected by my G**d D****d phone while waiting for my wife.”
My statement was supposed to say: It seems like a good article. Your cryptic message is indecipherable. Can you please let us know what your point is?
This seems to be turning into a "who is on first" Abbott and Costello routine. LOL!
Stay calm
Kari on
If God has damned your phone why are you still using it? /rhetorical question /sarcasm /humor
“The charges over the Iran war plan though are a lot more concerning.”
There is no telling what that is really about, but it pales into insignifance when Milley admitted he called his Chinese counterpart to discuss Trump’s supposed intent on attacking China. You talk about endangering national security — probably never has there ever been anything like that is this nation’s history.
Stop using the damned device is my suggestion. Get a new one.
First you may also have noticed that I used the term, "g**d d****d" phone. There were two asterisks in "g**d" which was meant to imply gaud as in "gaudy". But good question... the phone is gaudy, it is actually a glassy looking reflective reddish color depending on the angle that you see it from. It was "free" and has an obnoxiously large screen and I am a cheapskate. Younger people might think that my large, stiff, beat-up old index finger could precisely hit the tiny representation of a keyboard on the screen.
The people that people pay a lot of money for much smaller Apple phones and the like seem to be plagued by the same problems. At some point I will no doubt have to revert back to a giant flip phone made for oldsters.
Another typo was what I was thinking.
Either way, I would still get rid of a damned phone.
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When I can’t handle it anymore the phone will go bye bye. Until then the poor inhabitants of this site are going to have to put up with an occasional idiotic typo when I don’t do a good job of previewing before posting.
What about all the State Department emails that were found on Huma Abedin’s laptop that her husband Anthony Weiner saw?
They were found there, supposedly the result of an accidental Blackberry sync issue, but I don’t think it was ever assumed much less proven that Weiner even knew they were on there.
To equate to this situation with Trump, Humma would have been telling reporters there’s classified on her laptop, while they’re all sitting in an unapproved facility, and telling them “Look at this!”
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what happend to all the boxes taken out of huma’s relatives house in Michigan?
what happened to the state department lap top that huma left unattended in her car?
Per the security briefings I got when working, any document with classified info in it must get its sections marked with the classification level appropriate to that section.
Who ultimately gets to decide what is “classified?”
Administrative state bureaucrats or the President of the United States?
I sort of remember hearing about somebody named Benedict something-or-other.
Who ultimately gets to decide what to say to a foreign head of state, the President or one of his NSC advisors (e.g., Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman)?
If he applies the Amy Berman Jackson ruling to this case, he’s got it in the bag - according to her ruling, the President Of The United States had the ***unreviewable*** authority to possess, take or dispose of ANY vlassified documents he wants.
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