Posted on 06/10/2023 6:10:51 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
Yes, it’s true, according to the information contained in the Jack Smith indictment of President Donald John Trump, The Conservative Treehouse likely holds similar “classified documents” as outlined in the case by the special prosecutor.
Once you understand how, you then understand one of the most overlooked nonsensical aspects to the insufferable DOJ and FBI case that has been pushed in the media for the past year.
It is entirely possible for a person, any person, especially a person who follows the news, to possess documents containing “classified markings.” The indictment accuses President Trump of withholding documents containing “classified markings,” a very specifically deployed obtuse wording intended to create the implication of something nefarious where nothing nefarious exists.
There is a big difference between a classified document and a document containing classified markings. As an example, anyone who has looked at the Carter Page FISA application, made public in July 2018, has reviewed a document containing “classified markings.” When a document is declassified, they do not remove the markings.
You might think this is a one-off use of the “documents with classification markings” lingo, but it’s not. This language is the underpinning of the entire DOJ/FBI framework that predicated the raid on Mar-a-Lago. Specifically, neither NARA nor the DOJ-NSD requested President Trump or his team to return Classified Documents. The DOJ demanded the return of any documents that contained “classified markings.” [SEE BELOW]
Because the verbiage is so intentionally obtuse (ie. Lawfare), a fulsome production in compliance with this DOJ demand would include any newspaper or magazine articles that had a picture of the Carter Page FISA application, or any printed online article that might contain the same or similar elements. There is a big difference between asking for a classified document return, and asking for a return of documents that contain “classified markings.” [Example from CTH, below left]
As a result, it is entirely possible, I would say almost certain, that President Trump -and his legal team- returned every document that contained classified information but may have omitted documents that retained “classified markings”. There’s the spirit of compliance, and the letter of absolute compliance when contrast against a very granular interpretation of the request.
It is obvious from the demand, the DOJ/FBI were casting a wide net on the compliance side, knowing that amid hundreds-of-thousands of presidential documents and records, there would be obscure documents with classified markings that had nothing to do with national security. Thus, the “classified markings” establishes a Lawfare compliance tactic.
It will be interesting to see how this nonsense progresses. It becomes easier to call it nonsense, when you simply accept the approach being used. If the DOJ-NSD, FBI, Special Counsel or NARA were genuinely interested in ‘national security issues’, they would not be playing obtuse word games in order to structure court filings simply for media narrative engineering and propaganda purposes.
Again, all of these insufferable pretending elements simply create more avenues for smart legal minds to highlight to the court. The judges can see through this nonsense, and their action or lack thereof becomes part of showcasing their own agenda. Fortunately Judge Cannon has a very solid background on the Mar-a-Lago documents case. She wouldn’t need to have this stuff pointed out to her; she has already experienced it.
In the interim, for your own conversational points with friends and family, simply draw their attention to the difference between Classified Documents and documents containing “classified markings,” eventually everyone except the rabid orange-man-bad moonbats will figure out the games being played.
IIRC, she claimed she had classified docs on her government blackberry (which was allowed on certain blackberries at the time), and plugged it into her personal laptop to charge it (a no no), and it auto-synced. That should have been a violation, but it’s still not the same as purposefully discussing the classified info with someone not cleared to discuss it, and that being caught on tape.
I’m glad that you have ears to see the unheard picture I painted. :)
OK, lemme take a look ... hey, that wasn't nice. I don't think it would even fit!
“poison the jury pool”
I assume each juror will be required to be cleared to TS/SCI level. That level of clearance takes time - I think about 18 months.
The case will probably have to be transferred to the Alexandria, VA federal court to get such a jury quickly.
I thought the State Department had its own ‘secure’ in-house computer systems that Hillary should have used.
If you remember, she had supposedly already deleted 33,000 that didn’t appear in the Wikileaks release, which is where most of the classified messages supposedly were.
Or are you now saying that Trump was unfairly making too big a deal out of Clinton’s mishandling of classified info, by promising to lock her up if elected President, just because Wikileaks may have released a few? This would be an example of defining deviancy down by Trump and his supporters I was warning about.
Also, an email account on the Blackberry would have to be initially linked to an email account on the laptop before a synchronization could take place. Maybe an auto sync eventually did happen, but Abedin would have had to initialize it first. This suggest to me that it wasn't accidental, but something she did frequently (or at least once).
-PJ
I believe that is correct on how the devices interact. I don’t think there’s anyway she wouldn’t have known it was auto-synching, even though that’s what they claimed, IIRC.
There was nothing unfair about it. This was a political campaign, and he did exactly what he needed to do to win.
I don't think Trump was being "unfair" when he promised to have Bowe Bergdahl thrown out of a military aircraft at 30,000 feet with no parachute, either -- even though I knew damn well it was never going to happen.
Bttt
GFY never Trump a-hole!
>> [Trump] now wanting us to believe mishandling classified shouldn’t even be a thing
lol — nonsense
Thanks for clearing that up, Hillary. That is your real name isn’t it?
I was thinking it was Hillary or the FBI.
That in itself should have been grounds for jail timed but we know how that turned out.
I can't speak for the poster, but it seems like the point is smear.
Obtuse.
NOT Classified Documents.
It proves the point.
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