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Are China’s Intentions Really Such a Mystery?
Real Clear Defense ^ | 9 June 2023 | Francis P Sempa

Posted on 06/09/2023 9:12:49 AM PDT by Rummyfan

“growing hawkish consensus” about China’s “intent and capabilities.” Jeffrey Meiser, an associate political science professor at the University of Portland (Oregon), Renny Babiarz, an adjunct faculty member at Johns Hopkins, and David Mudd, who recently graduated from the University of Portland with English and political science degrees, “see significant evidence that China’s intentions are indeterminate and, in some arenas, neutral or even possibly aligning with U.S. national security interests.” The best strategic approach to China, they conclude, is not engagement or containment, but instead what they term “entanglement.” This article is an example of why most academics should be kept as far away from policy making as possible.

The three academics caution those who fear the worst about China’s intentions that there are “complexities involved in understanding the intentions and capabilities of rising powers.” The China hawks, they suggest, are engaging in “anti-Chinese” groupthink. Just as those who counseled engagement with China in the early post-Cold War period were over-optimistic about China’s intentions, today those who counsel containment of China have an “overly simplistic” view of China’s strategic culture which is not monolithically aggressive but consists of competing “subcultures” that affect elite decision-making. Meiser, Babiarz and Mudd believe that China’s strategic culture shifted “between the Mao Zedong and Deng Xiaoping eras,” and that shift was followed by “an inconclusive amalgam of concepts and goals, and visions of success articulated by Presidents Jiang Zemin, Hu Jintao, and Xi Jinping.”

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: ccp; china; policy
Emphasis mine.
1 posted on 06/09/2023 9:12:49 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan
Sorry. Entire first paragraph:

In an article in the Naval War College Review, three academics cast doubt on what they call the “growing hawkish consensus” about China’s “intent and capabilities.” Jeffrey Meiser, an associate political science professor at the University of Portland (Oregon), Renny Babiarz, an adjunct faculty member at Johns Hopkins, and David Mudd, who recently graduated from the University of Portland with English and political science degrees, “see significant evidence that China’s intentions are indeterminate and, in some arenas, neutral or even possibly aligning with U.S. national security interests.” The best strategic approach to China, they conclude, is not engagement or containment, but instead what they term “entanglement.” This article is an example of why most academics should be kept as far away from policy making as possible.

2 posted on 06/09/2023 9:13:43 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized of man.)
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To: Rummyfan

The best way to oppose China?

why of course, we expend ourselves and europe - our money, equipment and political will - on an utterly useless confrontation with Russia.

Sorry Americans, you are ruled by a cabal of grasping, arrogant fools.


3 posted on 06/09/2023 9:20:47 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88
The best way to oppose China?

Two words: President Trump.

4 posted on 06/09/2023 9:29:20 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Rummyfan

Chomo Joe will welcome China with open arms. They have the goods on his rotten family and especially when it comes to the sexual appetites of Father and son.


5 posted on 06/09/2023 9:30:41 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: PGR88

“why of course, we expend ourselves and europe - our money, equipment and political will - on an utterly useless confrontation with Russia.”

If someone ever invades your home, steals your stuff, kidnaps your children, rapes you wife, then don’t you dare call for help.


6 posted on 06/09/2023 9:34:39 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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Are Russians going to invade the US? Truthfully, if they did, at this point I would welcome them as liberators.


7 posted on 06/09/2023 9:40:28 AM PDT by nonliberal (Z.)
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To: Rummyfan

My mother said, “You listen to what people say. They’ll tell you what they are going to do to you. Your job is to take them seriously because they mean it.” Chinese leaders have been talking about dethroning America. A former Chinese general published an article saying the way to it was a massive decapitation strike. Nothing gets published in China that the government hasn’t approved.


8 posted on 06/09/2023 9:44:33 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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The same thing Churchill said before WWII.


9 posted on 06/09/2023 9:52:32 AM PDT by rottndog (What comes after America?)
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To: PGR88
Sorry Americans, you are ruled by a cabal of grasping, arrogant fools.

That is putting it mildly!

Where are Jefferson Davis, Travis Scott, Jim Bowie, and Davy Crocket when you really need them?

10 posted on 06/09/2023 9:56:22 AM PDT by icclearly
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"You do. not. reward. China. for. attempting. to. relitigate. a. nearly. 200. year. old. proxy. war. by. saying. hey. Im. good. as. long. as. it. doesn't. affect. me.

Did COVID affect any of you?

I repeat, did a PLA-designer global bioweapon affect any of you?

Look up that Wuhan street towards Beijing, from the WUHAN COVID FU RONG TIME FACTORY, to the street sign that says, "FEN-FUN FOR SALE! FREE SHIPRING THRU MEXRICO!"?

"FEN-FUN" ain't advertising hookers!

No Freeper should be ok with the PLA's 'smaller' war strategies these godless confucian mandarin simps are carrying out. Never be ok.

Conservatism is NOT about being pure to the point of purile. Don't say it's just a matter of degree, until you finally object to what is just a more obviously overt attempt by the CCP to kill Americans, with the PLA's COVID strategy.

Fentanyl is part-and-parcel of the same PLA strategy that produced COVID. Period. Paragraph. The Chinese are at war with US, and it is long past time that we were at war with them."

The boot in the face is the only thing the Chinese have ever understood and will ever understand. So DO IT.

11 posted on 06/09/2023 11:48:29 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone, the Communists told us what they wanted to happen and we put it in the Congressional Record in 1963.


12 posted on 06/09/2023 12:57:30 PM PDT by Rappini (Hope means coming in second.)
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