Now that the charade is over and we know Trump will be indicted federally, if the polls do not radically change, the Republican Party has a serious problem and will likely end up fractured

Twitter ^ | 9:11 PM · Jun 8, 2023 | Rich Baris

[conservative98]

THREAD: Now that the charade is over and we know Trump will be indicted federally, if the polls do not radically change, the Republican Party has a serious problem and will likely end up fractured.

Let's take something Chris Christie said to use as an explainer. When asked what he would do to win over "Trump voters", he responded with contempt that he rejected the term because "he doesn't own them [voters]."

No, he doesn't.

But only the political and ruling class doesn't understand that his connection to these voters is not about ownership. To explain, let's break down "Trump voters" into two broad categories.

1. Mid-to-High propensity, mid-to-long term REP/REP-leaning voters who hate their leaders and their own party because they betray and fail them over and over.

2. Lower propensity to new voters, who have no real loyalty to the party and only vote Republican if and when he's on the ballot.

If we are to assume Trump is taken out via Lawfare, as multiple opponents have assured donors he will be for months, most of these voters will never vote for the "replacement" because they have no rational policy reason to do so.

That term may be unfamiliar to most, or to others they cannot understand how it would be the case. Their lives have not gotten better under anyone but him, thus they do not think like partisans, even if they are 1) who technically are partisans.

If Republicans thought the Ross Perot fracture was devastating to their national viability, this will be a divorce that will make 1992 look like a lover's spat because 1) the coalition is so much larger and 2) it's so much more diverse.

Non-white voters who love him will hate the Republican Party for a generation.

They feel he fought for them, and now he's being persecuted and prosecuted for it. Large numbers of them will just write him in if they successfully remove him from the ballot, and large numbers would just stay home. What they will not do, is support those who banked on him being prosecuted.

[Brian Griffin]

“Boycott the GOP just like we did to AB and Target.”

There was and is no boycott, only continued widespread revulsion.

[WinstonSmith1984]

Bingo… the Senate has become a self licking ice cream cone… and its only real job in our republic is to hold the government accountable… the CCP KNOW THIS. Hence Chuck and Mitch… we are betrayed from within. We have been betrayed from within… and we gave the CCP the money to betray us.

[TigersEye]

Oh, the polls will change. Support for Donald Trump will increase.

[mbrfl]

1) Trump started attacking DeSantis before either were a candidate for the ‘24 election. Why? Because DeSantis is the only one who did not pay Trump homage.

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No. Nice try, but wrong answer. Trump’s attacks have nothing to do with homage and everything to do with the fact that DeSantis was intending to challenge him. Trump figured it out long before DeSantis announced, even if it took you by surprise.

Trump’s a fighter and that angers people like you, who are addicted to losing.

[princeofdarkness]

If Trump is out for 2024 it is very possible that the Democrats can break 55% in a Presidential election for the first time since ‘64. Perhaps if Rand Paul runs he’ll possibly win though it would be doubtful. Otherwise the GOP field of candidates are totally worthless and have no shot at winning.

[princeofdarkness]

DeSantis won’t have a chance either though he’ll make it somewhat respectable in the final outcome.

[flaglady47]

“I am tired of the drama, and have pretty much tuned out on 2024. I do not really care who gets elected anymore.”

You are an example of what’s wrong in this Country. The drama was all created by the corrupt Biden regime and Dems, you myopic fool.

[flaglady47]

“Boycott the GOP just like we did to AB and Target. NO money, NO votes, NO support.”

Because you will be dooming this Country to a dystopian future under a corrupt dictatorship and it will be too late to do anything about it as the Socialist/Fascist/Commies who are currently running our Country will have 4 more years to stop all free speech, take your guns, and instill more rules and regulations that will destroy your way of life than you can even imagine, you “Old Goat”.

Look how much this corrupt regime has accomplished in just 2 years in office. So you would give them another 4 years to rule as dictators? You won’t have a Republic left and will have no power to fight it. Wake up for heaven’s sake and THINK.

[virgil]

Vote for RFK Jr. in the democrat primary. If they take out Trump and the sonofabitches won’t impeach and convict Biden, might as well. Never Biden.

[FLT-bird]

Basically, the Republican Party is either going to become a much more populist and nationalist middle to working class party, or its dead.

The old religious right plus country club/business community plus traditional American coalition is dead. Many of the people who voted for that have died off. That coalition simply is not big enough to win elections any more.

Alienate the working class and spurn those of us who long ago grew tired of supporting a party we could see was just controlled opposition, and the Republican Party is completely dead.

[ScottinVA]

They’re late to the game.. it’s already fractured.

[joma89]

It is well past tome to destroy the real enemy in this CWII...the democrat party.

[vivenne]

They won’t. I think they are fine with losing and fine with Biden.

[vivenne]

I think you have a hard time seeing the bigger picture. That is sad that your hatred for Trump clouds your thinking. This is much bigger than one person. It’s about what is being done to our country.

[Sirius Lee]

Either way, it’s dead.

Agreed! Jabba the Christie's political career is moribund.

[mewzilla]

SNORT.

The letter after the name means jack anymore.

The only reason political parties still exist is to give voters the illusion of choice.

A pol is either loyal to our former republic or to Deep State.

The vast majority of our pols have outted themselves as Deep State.

George Washington warned us about political parties.

We should have listened.

[Pollard]

1) Trump started attacking DeSantis before either were a candidate for the ‘24 election. Why?

Because the mega RINO donor class had already donated many millions to DeSantis. Way more than needed to run for FL governor re-election. It was known in political circles that BOTH were to be 2024 presidential candidates. Political campaigns start long before official announcements. It starts with money changing hands.

Republican Governor's Association - Federal(keyword)
aka RINO Governor Association

$27 million accepted from certain donors is a defacto candidacy announcement. Trump knows that.

https://www.rga.org/news/

Very important "news" like how good of a job Abbott is doing with the border and how Repub governors are leading the way to protect the border. LOL What f-ing border?

[Pollard]

Large numbers of them will just write him in if they successfully remove him from the ballot, and large numbers would just stay home. What they will not do, is support those who banked on him being prosecuted.

That's me. Since it only takes me a few minutes to vote, I'll write him in. If it was an hour process, I'd stay home.

[sauropod]

IIRC, MTG has introduced articles of impeachment against several of these.

[Pollard]

I hate the dems but I loathe the RINOs which is 95% of the repub party. At the state level, in 2020 THEY LET THE DEMS CHANGE HOW WE VOTE. Then they acted clueless when shown the evidence of fraud. Remember them being shown Ruby Freeman and co pulling ballots out from under the tables? What ever happened with her deposition? Postponed for so long it’s forgotten. While Rudy G might not have been the best presenter, he did bring the receipts and they ignored it.