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Seymour Hersh: ‘Something Else Is Cooking’ In Ukraine
tsarizm.com ^ | 5/22/23 | Staff

Posted on 05/23/2023 5:20:13 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

Last Saturday the Washington Post published an exposé of classified American intelligence documents showing that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, working behind the back of the Biden White House, pushed hard earlier this year for an expanded series of missile attacks inside Russia. The documents were part of a large cache of classified materials posted online by an Air Force enlisted man now in custody. A senior official of the Biden administration, asked by the Post for comment on the newly revealed intelligence, said that Zelensky has never violated his pledge never to use American weapons to strike inside Russia. In the view of the White House, Zelensky can do no wrong.

Zelensky’s desire to take the war to Russia may not be clear to the president and senior foreign policy aides in the White House, but it is to those in the American intelligence community who have found it difficult to get their intelligence and their assessments a hearing in the Oval Office. Meanwhile, the slaughter in the city of Bakhmut continues. It is similar in idiocy, if not in numbers, to the slaughter in Verdun and the Somme during World War I. The men in charge of today’s war—in Moscow, Kiev, and Washington—have shown no interest even in temporary ceasefire talks that could serve as a prelude to something permanent. The talk now is only about the possibilities of a late spring or summer offensive by either party.

But something else is cooking, as some in the American intelligence community know and have reported in secret, at the instigation of government officials at various levels in Poland, Hungary, Lithuania, Estonia, Czechoslovakia, and Latvia. These countries are all allies of Ukraine and declared enemies of Vladimir Putin…

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 00seriously; 0seymourhersh; communistsources; eu; hersh; russia; seymourhersh; tsarizmdotcom; ukraine; wefwar
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1 posted on 05/23/2023 5:20:13 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Post the whole thing?


2 posted on 05/23/2023 5:24:26 PM PDT by OKSooner (Let us eat, drink, and be merry...)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Duck Soup?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mEsXz-Bpog


3 posted on 05/23/2023 5:25:13 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Czechoslovakia?

Seymour is a retard and a has-been.
4 posted on 05/23/2023 5:26:14 PM PDT by Apparatchik (If you find yourself in a confusing situation, simply laugh knowingly and walk away - Jim Ignatowski)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

“...A senior official of the Biden administration, asked by the Post for comment on the newly revealed intelligence, said ...”
Really? Is there anyone out there, even corrupt DemocRATs, that believe ANYTHING coming out of the White House of Excrement?

Not kidding in any manner.

Those people should be indicted, tried, and SHOT.


5 posted on 05/23/2023 5:27:27 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: OKSooner

in brief

Biden resign


6 posted on 05/23/2023 5:35:06 PM PDT by Firehath
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To: Firehath

Thank you.


7 posted on 05/23/2023 5:44:38 PM PDT by OKSooner (Let us eat, drink, and be merry...)
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To: OKSooner; Roman_War_Criminal
Post the whole thing?

Here is the real thing from the link in the Tsarist's mishmash article of Seymour Hersh's original content:

Seymour Hersh: The Ukraine Refugee Question

8 posted on 05/23/2023 5:58:16 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Apparatchik

Bk


9 posted on 05/23/2023 6:02:08 PM PDT by ptsal (Vote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***)
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To: OKSooner

You can read it all here:

https://thejewishvoice.com/2023/05/seymour-hersh-something-else-is-cooking-in-ukraine/


10 posted on 05/23/2023 6:15:40 PM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
A knowledgeable American official told me that some in the leadership in Hungary and Poland were among those working together to get Ukraine involved in serious talks with Moscow. “Hungary is a big player in this and so are Poland and Germany, and they are working to get Zelensky to come around,” the American official said. The European leaders have made it clear that “Zelensky can keep what he’s got”—a villa in Italy and interests in offshore bank accounts—“if he works up a peace deal even if he’s got to be paid off, if it’s the only way to get a deal.”

So far, the official said, Zelensky has rejected such advice and ignored offers of large sums of money to ease his retreat to an estate he owns in Italy. There is no support in the Biden Administration for any settlement that involves Zelensky’s departure, and the leadership in France and England “are too beholden” to Biden to contemplate such a scenario. There is a reality that some elements in the American intelligence community can’t ignore, the official said, even if the White House is ignoring it: “Ukraine is running out of money and it is known that the next four or months are critical. And Eastern Europeans are talking about a deal.” The issue for them, the official told me, “is how to get the United States to stop supporting Zelensky,” The White House support goes beyond the needs of the war: “We are paying all of the retirement funds—the 401k’s—for Ukraine.”

Big Joe: Zelensky's not budging.
Crapgame: Then make a deal.
Big Joe: What kind of deal?
Crapgame: A deal — deal.   Maybe the guy's a Republican.  Business is business, right?
11 posted on 05/23/2023 6:24:25 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
No worries! Senators have their satellite phones "just in case" it all goes South

U.S. Senators Are Being Issued Satellite Phones in Preparation for a ‘Disruptive Event’

12 posted on 05/23/2023 6:26:14 PM PDT by montag813
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To: higgmeister

Otban’s recent remarks re Ukraine:

https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-t-win-war-against-093832327.html


13 posted on 05/23/2023 6:49:07 PM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Zelensky/Ukraine used America armored vehicles just YESTERDAY for a strike inside Russia that killed civilians.


14 posted on 05/23/2023 7:02:13 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Just a little mental chewing gum …

Ukraine used to have a big supply of Soviet nukes in storage. But they gave them all back in exchange for a promise that the Ruskies would never invade.

Did anybody happen to keep an accurate tally during that shipment?


15 posted on 05/23/2023 7:12:42 PM PDT by DNME (… all experience hath shewn ….)
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To: CatHerd

Thanks.


16 posted on 05/23/2023 7:13:43 PM PDT by OKSooner (Let us eat, drink, and be merry...)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal; Apparatchik

Hersh is an upper class tabloid writer. He is a more classy hack writer. He’s still a hack writer.


17 posted on 05/23/2023 7:17:27 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni! 🇺🇦 ☭ No CCCP 2.0 ☭)
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To: Widget Jr

Hersh is also an icon Post Modern Conservatism. Hilarious.


18 posted on 05/23/2023 7:25:19 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: CatHerd

Those comments disqualify Orban from playing any role as a broker here.


19 posted on 05/23/2023 7:28:18 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
This group is led by Poland, whose leadership no longer fears the Russian army because its performance in Ukraine has left the glow of its success at Stalingrad during the Second World War in tatters. It has been quietly urging Zelensky to find a way to end the war—even by resigning himself, if necessary—and to allow the process of rebuilding his nation to get under way.

I don't believe for a minute that Poland ever feared being invaded by Russia or doesn't fear the Russian military. That's BS because the Poles want out of the war as does anyone in the West with half a brain.

20 posted on 05/23/2023 7:54:50 PM PDT by Kazan
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