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WESTERN DELUSIONS ABOUT RUSSIA AND UKRAINE ARE GENUINE
Sonar 21 ^ | 5/21/23 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 05/21/2023 4:02:13 PM PDT by Kazan

If you think that the policy towards Russia, which is shaped by the perceptions and beliefs of the Washington status quo, is not seriously screwed up, think again and watch Charles Kupchan, a former Clinton and Obama National Security official and current shill for the Atlantic Council, take you on a bizarre journey worthy of Alice in Wonderland. Kupchan’s views are not unique to him. What he is saying about Russia and Ukraine is mainstream Neo-Con and reflects the views of Biden’s key national security aides and the leaders of the U.S. Senate and House. No amount of facts will change his mind. He is locked in, as is the Biden Administration, in portraying Russia as a rapacious, authoritarian state hell-bent on conquering the world.

If there is anyone in a leadership role in Russia or China who still believes that there is a path of negotiation with the United States, Kupchan’s delusional diatribes unleashed in this video should awake them to the futility of such an effort. There is no room for genuine negotiation with Moscow. The Washington establishment will not be satisfied until Putin is dead and Russia is carved up like a Thanksgiving Turkey — the bird not the country.

Here is the first segment of Kupchan’s interview on RT’s program, Going Underground. You can watch the entire program here:

Charles Kupchan Part I

The fall of Bakhmut today to the Russians, just like the capture of Mariupol one year ago to the day, is being portrayed in the West as a nothing-burger. It is a Leslie Nielsen (portraying Detective Frank Drebin) moment:

The Naked Gun - "Nothing to see here!" (1080p)

But Ukraine paid a heavy price in blood in trying to hold onto that supposedly “worthless” city. Simplicius provides the details of the Ukrainian military obituary:

Why is Bakhmut called a Meat Grinder?
Who was decimated in Bakhmut:
Brigades:
45th Brigade
43rd Brigade
26th Brigade
28th Brigade
62nd Brigade
63rd Brigade
53rd Brigade
60th Brigade
24th Brigade
57th Brigade
30th Brigade
Advance Rubizh Brigade
Advance Azov Brigade
Advance Uragan Brigade
Advance Spartan Brigade
109th Brigade
116th Brigade
119th Brigade
241st Brigade
93rd Brigade
77th Brigade
46th Brigade
4th Brigade
17th Brigade
61st Brigade of Jaegers

Special Forces and Spetsnaz Regiments:
5th Assault Regiment 8th Regiment of Special Forces

Kraken Battalions:
122nd Battalion
68th Battalion
49th Rifle Battalion
15th Mountain Assault Battalion
Omega
Border Guard Donetsk

8th Regiment of the UDAR UAVs:
Shershen
Adam
Karlsen
Terra
Skala
Madyar
Khartia
Kep
Seneka

WASP Legions:
Dudaev Battalion
Georgian Legion
Mansur Battalion
Shamil Battalion
Gonor
Normandy Legion

Most of these battalions have suffered more than 70% casualties just against PMC Wagner.

The twenty five brigades listed above represents a force of atleast 50,000 men (assuming only 2000 men in a reduced brigade) and as many as 125,000. Simplicius also lists at least 9 battalions and 5 regiments — that is 4500 and 5000 additional troops respectively. Do the math. If Ukraine deployed 134,500 troops to the battle for Bakhmut, 70% casualties means that Ukraine suffered as many as 94,150 killed and wounded.

The twenty five brigades listed above represents a force of at least 50,000 men (assuming only 2000 men in a reduced brigade) and as many as 125,000. Simplicius also lists at least 9 battalions and 5 regiments — that is 4500 and 5000 additional troops respectively. Do the math. If Ukraine deployed 134,500 troops to the battle for Bakhmut, 70% casualties means that Ukraine suffered as many as 94,150 killed and wounded.

Kupchan, in my view, is a precise barometer of the philosophical and political ideology directing U.S. policy towards Russia and Ukraine. These people — e.g., Sullivan, Blinken, Nuland and Kupchan — really believe that Russia is an impoverished, ravaged nation barely hanging on and nothing yet has shaken them of that belief. They are convinced that if Ukraine can pull off a military miracle that Russia will collapse. This mindset is not only crazy, it is dangerous. It grossly underestimates Russia’s capability and determination to achieve its stated goals of demilitarizing and de-nazifying Ukraine and rests heavily on the false assumption that Russia does not have the economic power to sustain its military effort.

I do recommend you read the latest from Simplicius the Thinker. It is behind a pay wall. He offers a fascinating, detailed analysis of the next steps in the war. I believe that Simplicius is not the sole author of the excellent pieces posted at his Substack. I believe he is a conduit for providing the view of Russian military intelligence about the state of play in the war Russia is waging in Ukraine. He is getting help from knowledgeable folks on the Russian side. Please do not misinterpret what I am trying to convey — I am not accusing Simplicius of being a Russian stooge. Far from it. I think he represents a rather sophisticated information operation designed to try to communicate with the West the reality of what Ukraine faces in this war.

Simplicius is a clever vehicle for getting information to the public that is not covered with the taint of a Russian Ministry of Defense briefing. I am not suggesting that the Russian MOD is lying. Just pointing out the the establishment West routinely rejects anything the MOD provides. Simplicius, as a Substac author, is not an immediate lightning rod and his well reasoned pieces appear to be having the intended effect of educating people in the West about what is really going on and what may happen. I realize that some, like Charles Kupchan, immediately reject what Simplicius is presenting by labeling it as “Russian propaganda.” Simplicius, in my view, is not a propagandist or a spin artist.

Let me take one telling example from his latest work. He comments on the reported ambush of two Russian combat aircraft and two helicopters last week. The initial public reaction credited Ukraine with a daring operation that caught the Russians with their pants down. But Simplicius now presents a credible case that the Russians themselves shot down these aircraft.

Some might argue, they recently blasted an entire Russian ‘special air group’ near Bryansk. But to be honest, the more time goes by, the more I’m personally leaning towards the explanation that that air group was destroyed by friendly fire. The prominent Russian ‘FighterBomber’ channel seems to agree, stating that Russian IFF (Identify Friend Foe) systems have known problems, and it would explain a lot of very untenable anomalies of the shoot down; like why the EW choppers did not appear to be engaging the threat at all with their automated systems which disperse flares/chaff and why they wouldn’t have been able to jam the system in question to begin with, as is their role. Keep in mind, Ukraine itself denied that they were responsible for this shoot down, officially, though that’s not necessarily saying much.,/I>

It’s simply too improbable, and they have no real systems that can reach that far into Russian space, have never done it before or since. So personally, my senses tell me that was a catastrophic case of blue on blue. Wouldn’t be the first or last time—most of the shoot downs of Russian Su-34s over Donetsk last year were confirmed to have been by friendly fire. And most shoot downs in general throughout history are friendly fire, which includes the majority of NATO/U.S. shoot downs in the various conflicts like Desert Storm, etc. It’s a simple reality of air operations.

Whether Simplicius is producing all of these excellent pieces on his own or is getting help from Russian military intelligence is irrelevant because the quality of what is written stands on its own and is worth reading, which means you ought to consider subscribing to his Substack. Sadly, people like Charles Kupchan prefer to wallow in the filth of ignorance and blindly embrace suicidal policies that will do more to harm the United States than Russia.


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To: Kazan

“WE fomented an illegal coup in 2014.”

The US deep state favored the coup but it was 100% Ukrainian.

It came about because election results could not be trusted and were not trusted.


61 posted on 05/21/2023 6:58:29 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Zhang Fei; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; ...
Thanks Zhang Fei.

62 posted on 05/21/2023 6:59:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpers are Republicans the same way Liz Cheney is a Republican.)
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To: janetjanet998

Very sad. I hope the fight does not go to Dneiperpetrovsk


63 posted on 05/21/2023 7:00:02 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: ought-six

“WE funded, trained and armed the Ukrainian military with the sole purpose of fighting this proxy war”

The US had a peace-loving man named Trump in the White House for four years. About all he did regarding Ukraine was to talk on the phone to their President and send them some defensive Javelin missiles.


64 posted on 05/21/2023 7:02:43 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

You’re a moron.


65 posted on 05/21/2023 7:04:12 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: for-q-clinton

Every life us valuable some would say.


66 posted on 05/21/2023 7:07:36 PM PDT by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna!)
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To: ought-six

You were doing well until your assumed statement at the end...then you blew it.


67 posted on 05/21/2023 7:07:57 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: Kazan

I suspect Russia lost twice as many men as Ukraine in the fight over Bakhmut partially due to being an attacking force but mainly due to poor unit level leadership.

Bear in mind that the men Ukraine lost were mainly top notch and many of the dead Russians were convicts trying to win their freedom.

I also suspect Russia is going to retrain their forces so its casualties will be lower.


68 posted on 05/21/2023 7:12:26 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Kazan

The USA sends $150 Billion to Ukraine.

Ukraine can’t even hold Bakhmut.


69 posted on 05/21/2023 7:14:49 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: Kazan

That may yet happen - they’re playing Russian roulette with Putin.


70 posted on 05/21/2023 7:15:39 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: Kazan

It’s always the same posters knocking other posters who give any info on this war that isn’t favorable to Ukraine.


71 posted on 05/21/2023 7:21:13 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: Kazan

“rely on Putin and the Russians to show restraint”

Russian leadership will long remember the Russians killed by US weapons.

If the US finds itself fighting another war Russia will supply the enemy of the US with weapons.

People in DC still remember Russian trawlers off Guam reporting B-52 takeoffs and SAM-2 missiles sent to North Vietnam.

Was Jane Fonda sitting on a Chinese or Russian gun system?


72 posted on 05/21/2023 7:23:57 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: for-q-clinton

It’s called stalemated quagmire. It doesn’t matter who won this round. I assume Team Uke Corruption lost since the big guy just ante upped $375 million more today to finance the continued operation of the globalist meat grinder.


73 posted on 05/21/2023 7:25:32 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Kazan

The US news media coverage of the war compares poorly to that of India, France and many other countries.


74 posted on 05/21/2023 7:26:22 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“Ukraine can’t even hold Bakhmut.”

Bakhmut is rubble.

The Russians obliterated the last quarter held by Ukrainians.


75 posted on 05/21/2023 7:33:10 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: janetjanet998

It was written ...”It’s 4am in Ukraine and Russia has just launched another wave of missile attacks against Ukrainian cities.

Most Russian missiles are currently targeting Dnipro, but Zaporizhzhia is also under attack.

They are using the anti-aircraft carrier Kh-22 missiles”


76 posted on 05/21/2023 7:48:01 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: Brian Griffin

Yes. $150 billion - that we know about - and ukraine couldn’t defeat mercenaries in a city Ukraine occupied.


77 posted on 05/21/2023 7:53:27 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: silverleaf

In fact, the assault force Wagner was probably only about 1/2- 1/3 of the 90K force the Ukes deployed to defense

This battle will change the teaching in War Colleges

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Exactly, Vlads artillery hammer slaughtered the Ukies. His glide bombs took out entire city blocks, HUGE numbers of Ukies and weapons are buried in the building basements and rubble- huge.

You can view some footage on Odyssey and other select NON western news sites.

That said, this bodes not well for the US who has abandoned mass artillery for air strikes. Big mistake in the future, China, North Korea, have huge artillery stocks.

Prizhogin’s speech is also excellent, 1) maybe he can send an autographed Bakmut flag to our Congress like the little corrupt Zelensky did.

2) Prizhogins comment about Zelensky running back to America and “ kiss Biden on the head” was hilarious, if you understand Russian humor.

Anyway, Russia gains a vital town, it was a major Donbass transportation hub, now Vlad can use the important railroads and highways to further supply the tons of artillery straight from Russia….the experts agree the railroad lines will be restored inside a week….if you thought Vlads artillery hammer has been big, it’s going to get bigger.

Chasov Yar and Avidivka next….


78 posted on 05/21/2023 8:03:59 PM PDT by delta7
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To: icclearly

It is called “ The Russian Derangement Syndrome”, it infects mainly Democrats, no known cure. While not fatal, it severely debilitates the brain, and was first noticed during Trump’s time.


79 posted on 05/21/2023 8:06:49 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Kazan

MARKED...... THANKS


80 posted on 05/21/2023 8:26:57 PM PDT by piroque ("When the SHTF I'm gonna hunker down until all those idiots kill each other. " )
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