WESTERN DELUSIONS ABOUT RUSSIA AND UKRAINE ARE GENUINE

Sonar 21 ^ | 5/21/23 | Larry Johnson

[Kazan]

If you think that the policy towards Russia, which is shaped by the perceptions and beliefs of the Washington status quo, is not seriously screwed up, think again and watch Charles Kupchan, a former Clinton and Obama National Security official and current shill for the Atlantic Council, take you on a bizarre journey worthy of Alice in Wonderland. Kupchan’s views are not unique to him. What he is saying about Russia and Ukraine is mainstream Neo-Con and reflects the views of Biden’s key national security aides and the leaders of the U.S. Senate and House. No amount of facts will change his mind. He is locked in, as is the Biden Administration, in portraying Russia as a rapacious, authoritarian state hell-bent on conquering the world.

If there is anyone in a leadership role in Russia or China who still believes that there is a path of negotiation with the United States, Kupchan’s delusional diatribes unleashed in this video should awake them to the futility of such an effort. There is no room for genuine negotiation with Moscow. The Washington establishment will not be satisfied until Putin is dead and Russia is carved up like a Thanksgiving Turkey — the bird not the country.

Here is the first segment of Kupchan’s interview on RT’s program, Going Underground. You can watch the entire program here:

Charles Kupchan Part I

The fall of Bakhmut today to the Russians, just like the capture of Mariupol one year ago to the day, is being portrayed in the West as a nothing-burger. It is a Leslie Nielsen (portraying Detective Frank Drebin) moment:

The Naked Gun - "Nothing to see here!" (1080p)

But Ukraine paid a heavy price in blood in trying to hold onto that supposedly “worthless” city. Simplicius provides the details of the Ukrainian military obituary:

Why is Bakhmut called a Meat Grinder?
Who was decimated in Bakhmut:
Brigades:
45th Brigade
43rd Brigade
26th Brigade
28th Brigade
62nd Brigade
63rd Brigade
53rd Brigade
60th Brigade
24th Brigade
57th Brigade
30th Brigade
Advance Rubizh Brigade
Advance Azov Brigade
Advance Uragan Brigade
Advance Spartan Brigade
109th Brigade
116th Brigade
119th Brigade
241st Brigade
93rd Brigade
77th Brigade
46th Brigade
4th Brigade
17th Brigade
61st Brigade of Jaegers

Special Forces and Spetsnaz Regiments:
5th Assault Regiment 8th Regiment of Special Forces

Kraken Battalions:
122nd Battalion
68th Battalion
49th Rifle Battalion
15th Mountain Assault Battalion
Omega
Border Guard Donetsk

8th Regiment of the UDAR UAVs:
Shershen
Adam
Karlsen
Terra
Skala
Madyar
Khartia
Kep
Seneka

WASP Legions:
Dudaev Battalion
Georgian Legion
Mansur Battalion
Shamil Battalion
Gonor
Normandy Legion

Most of these battalions have suffered more than 70% casualties just against PMC Wagner.

The twenty five brigades listed above represents a force of atleast 50,000 men (assuming only 2000 men in a reduced brigade) and as many as 125,000. Simplicius also lists at least 9 battalions and 5 regiments — that is 4500 and 5000 additional troops respectively. Do the math. If Ukraine deployed 134,500 troops to the battle for Bakhmut, 70% casualties means that Ukraine suffered as many as 94,150 killed and wounded.

The twenty five brigades listed above represents a force of at least 50,000 men (assuming only 2000 men in a reduced brigade) and as many as 125,000. Simplicius also lists at least 9 battalions and 5 regiments — that is 4500 and 5000 additional troops respectively. Do the math. If Ukraine deployed 134,500 troops to the battle for Bakhmut, 70% casualties means that Ukraine suffered as many as 94,150 killed and wounded.

Kupchan, in my view, is a precise barometer of the philosophical and political ideology directing U.S. policy towards Russia and Ukraine. These people — e.g., Sullivan, Blinken, Nuland and Kupchan — really believe that Russia is an impoverished, ravaged nation barely hanging on and nothing yet has shaken them of that belief. They are convinced that if Ukraine can pull off a military miracle that Russia will collapse. This mindset is not only crazy, it is dangerous. It grossly underestimates Russia’s capability and determination to achieve its stated goals of demilitarizing and de-nazifying Ukraine and rests heavily on the false assumption that Russia does not have the economic power to sustain its military effort.

I do recommend you read the latest from Simplicius the Thinker. It is behind a pay wall. He offers a fascinating, detailed analysis of the next steps in the war. I believe that Simplicius is not the sole author of the excellent pieces posted at his Substack. I believe he is a conduit for providing the view of Russian military intelligence about the state of play in the war Russia is waging in Ukraine. He is getting help from knowledgeable folks on the Russian side. Please do not misinterpret what I am trying to convey — I am not accusing Simplicius of being a Russian stooge. Far from it. I think he represents a rather sophisticated information operation designed to try to communicate with the West the reality of what Ukraine faces in this war.

Simplicius is a clever vehicle for getting information to the public that is not covered with the taint of a Russian Ministry of Defense briefing. I am not suggesting that the Russian MOD is lying. Just pointing out the the establishment West routinely rejects anything the MOD provides. Simplicius, as a Substac author, is not an immediate lightning rod and his well reasoned pieces appear to be having the intended effect of educating people in the West about what is really going on and what may happen. I realize that some, like Charles Kupchan, immediately reject what Simplicius is presenting by labeling it as “Russian propaganda.” Simplicius, in my view, is not a propagandist or a spin artist.

Let me take one telling example from his latest work. He comments on the reported ambush of two Russian combat aircraft and two helicopters last week. The initial public reaction credited Ukraine with a daring operation that caught the Russians with their pants down. But Simplicius now presents a credible case that the Russians themselves shot down these aircraft.

Some might argue, they recently blasted an entire Russian ‘special air group’ near Bryansk. But to be honest, the more time goes by, the more I’m personally leaning towards the explanation that that air group was destroyed by friendly fire. The prominent Russian ‘FighterBomber’ channel seems to agree, stating that Russian IFF (Identify Friend Foe) systems have known problems, and it would explain a lot of very untenable anomalies of the shoot down; like why the EW choppers did not appear to be engaging the threat at all with their automated systems which disperse flares/chaff and why they wouldn’t have been able to jam the system in question to begin with, as is their role. Keep in mind, Ukraine itself denied that they were responsible for this shoot down, officially, though that’s not necessarily saying much.,/I>

It’s simply too improbable, and they have no real systems that can reach that far into Russian space, have never done it before or since. So personally, my senses tell me that was a catastrophic case of blue on blue. Wouldn’t be the first or last time—most of the shoot downs of Russian Su-34s over Donetsk last year were confirmed to have been by friendly fire. And most shoot downs in general throughout history are friendly fire, which includes the majority of NATO/U.S. shoot downs in the various conflicts like Desert Storm, etc. It’s a simple reality of air operations.

Whether Simplicius is producing all of these excellent pieces on his own or is getting help from Russian military intelligence is irrelevant because the quality of what is written stands on its own and is worth reading, which means you ought to consider subscribing to his Substack. Sadly, people like Charles Kupchan prefer to wallow in the filth of ignorance and blindly embrace suicidal policies that will do more to harm the United States than Russia.

[Williams]

well they didn’t stop them, depending on the definition, and we’ll see if they do stop them now.
I’d say slow down is a definite, stop we’ll see.

[Jan_Sobieski]

But common sense says the defender loses less than the offense.

Not necessarily. Strong well placed Artillery can soften the hardest of entrenched opposition

[janetjanet998]

Numerous explosions heard in Dnipro over the course of the last half hour. Some residents are describing the attack as one of the largest on the city since the start of the war.

[Forward the Light Brigade]

We will not know the truth for ten years, same with Trump and what happened with him. The Fog of war, hate, and greed will taint any facts. Believe what you see—doubt all else. All wars end—so will this one. Europe doesn’t want Nuke WW III—they had enough with WW I & II. Before that with Napoleon. Without German help—no land war is possible in Europe. But, Nuke war? Maybe?

[for-q-clinton]

Not when your artillery doesn’t go as far as the Enemies.

[janetjanet998]

OSINT (Uri) 🇺🇦
@UKikaski
More explosions in #Dnipro. Is this a change of tactic where one City is hit hard? So far, Dnipro has been hit by Shahed attack drones, S-300 ballistic missiles and most recently Kh-22’s which were originally intended to be Aircraft Carrier “Killers.”

[silverleaf]

I don’t think Magic 8 Ball would tell us that Wagner PMC pretty much took 100,000 casualties from a cannon fodder force of 90,000 Uke ( based on analysis of Uke unit designators that simply disappeared from the battlefield) ….a Uke force that clearly lacked artillery missile or air support compared to Russia.

Simplicious is pretty respected.
He tallies lost Uke units here.

https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-52023-bakhmut-falls-artemovsk

Even their tough guy AZOV unit on the flank deblocking ops ( which they called a counteroffensive) took a big hit. In One day they lost 1600 men by RU MoD reports. Even if we cut that number in half….!

Do some of these analysts seriously think Wagner had/ has hundreds of thousands of troops?

[libertarian66]

Actually it doesn’t prove anything. Perhaps the Russkie tanks are all out at the front? Anyway, it does seem true that both sides have been hit hard.

Russia failed in its aims to take all of Ukraine quickly. But it does seem Ukraine may win the battles but lose the war. Time will tell.

[DesertRhino]

What the point in the parade where a single T-34 rolled by proved is easy to discern. It was an artistic touch. It was a powerful and deliberate point to get people to remember the fight against the original nazis.

It would be like if we were in a serious existential fight, and we were having a parade to remember WWII, and at some point in the parade a single Sherman tank rolled by.

But the looneys here are convinced that is because it’s all they had. Also, what kind of lunatic would take the time and effort to take important resources up to Moscow for a Parade?

Silliness.

[ARW]

All your posts are personal attacks.

[ought-six]

In your fantasies.

[ought-six]

“Muskovy has been an existential threat to every neighboring country for centuries. They learned how from the Mongols.”

You see, you are employing history and reason, both of which are abstract concepts to the FR Muscovites.

[Kazan]

I believe that. But, if you don't hate Russia, then what is the motive to defending all the lies of the Biden regime and Deep State? $$$$$.

You somehow are making money off this war with through employment by company or organization benefiting from or defending it. Or, perhaps, because defense industry stock.

[ARW]

Lmao.

[Kazan]

Russia went into Ukraine for TWO reason 1) for VALID national security reasons. 2) to keep neo-Nazis and Ukrainian nationalist from persecuting and murder ethnic Russians, some of which were Russian citizens but, at the very least, are relatives of Russian citizens.

WE fomented an illegal coup in 2014. WE installed a government hostile to Russia. WE encouraged that government to cutoff access to the Sevastopol naval base, which Russia has operated since 1783. WE funded, trained and armed the Ukrainian military with the sole purpose of fighting this proxy war, which WE did everything we could to make happen. The objective was destroying Russia and carving it up so our elite could make money off the breakup. WE were running biolabs with deadly pathogens in them.

If Russia or China we doing anything like that Mexico, WE WOULD AND SHOULD invade and put an end to it.

All you have is mindless, lame flames. Any time you're confronted all this, you can't respond.

[ought-six]

“But, if you don’t hate Russia, then what is the motive to defending all the lies of the Biden regime and Deep State? $$$$$.”

You do what the progs always do: Assume facts not in evidence, rush to judgment, and jump to conclusions. Your comment above shows that.

I want Ukraine to prevail in its existential struggle against a larger and stronger neighbor who invaded without any legitimate reason, REGARDLESS of who our president is, or who Ukraine’s president is; in other words, in spite of them. But, you are unable to grasp that simple fact; it is beyond your ken.

“You somehow are making money off this war with through employment by company or organization benefiting from or defending it. Or, perhaps, because defense industry stock.”

You just proved my point again: You assume facts not in evidence, rush to judgment, and jump to conclusions.

You are an epic fail, Ivan.

[ought-six]

“WE fomented an illegal coup in 2014. WE installed a government hostile to Russia. WE encouraged that government to cutoff access to the Sevastopol naval base, which Russia has operated since 1783. WE funded, trained and armed the Ukrainian military with the sole purpose of fighting this proxy war, which WE did everything we could to make happen. The objective was destroying Russia and carving it up so our elite could make money off the breakup. WE were running biolabs with deadly pathogens in them.”

What’s this “WE,” kemosabe? All you do is repeat Russian talking points. Have you no original and independent thought at all?

[sauropod]

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[Palmetto State Conservative]

I agree 100%. Sadly, Putin appears to be the only adult in this sad, needless tragedy. We would all be irradiated by now if the appraisals of him by Neocon experts were accurate. He is showing restraint and has behaved methodically. The west is looking more and more bankrupt in more and more ways. Take President Biden, for example. An obvious escapee from a nursing home or mental asylum....

[ought-six]

Are you going to respond to my post #16? No, of course you won’t. You are a habitual fabricator, kid; and just make stuff up, because you can’t face facts as they are.