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Vivek Ramaswamy Debated Gender With Chuck Todd, and It Was Absolutely Bonkers
Red State ^ | 04/30/2023 | Bonchie

Posted on 04/30/2023 8:15:22 PM PDT by SeekAndFind


Vivek Ramaswamy debates Chuck Todd about gender (4/30/23) (Credit: Kevin Tober)

Sometimes you watch an interview and have to do a double-take to make sure it’s not an episode of Saturday Night Live. That was the case when I came across a clip of Meet the Press that I can only describe as absolutely bonkers.

In it, Vivek Ramaswamy battles Chuck Todd over the topic of gender, and Todd’s reaction to Ramaswamy stating some basic truths is truly unbelievable (Newsbusters).

CHUCK TODD: Are you confident that you know that gender is as binary as you're describing it?@VivekGRamaswamy: I am.

TODD: Do you know this as a scientist?

RAMASWAMY: There are two X chromosomes if you're a woman and an X and a Y…

TODD: There is a lot of… pic.twitter.com/KyVZnASdmv

— Kevin Tober (@KevinTober94) April 30, 2023

CHUCK TODD: You’re calling it that, but how do you know it’s that? Again, how do you know? Are you confident that you know that gender is as binary as you’re describing it? Are you confident?

RAMASWAMY: I am.

TODD: That there isn’t a spectrum?

RAMASWAMY: I am.

TODD: Do you know this as a scientist?

RAMASWAMY: Well, there’s two X chromosomes if you’re a woman, and an X and a Y that means you’re a man—

[crosstalk]

TODD: There is a lot of scientific research that says gender is a spectrum.

How did we get here? Really, I ask that in all sincerity without an ounce of snark. How did society get to a place where a person can’t even state a general biological fact? It is indisputable that scientifically, there are only two genders. That is dictated by genetics. One either has two X chromosomes or you have an X and Y chromosome. Any other combinations are birth defects, not separate genders that form a chosen identity.

Yet, Todd actually tried an appeal to authority when Ramaswamy said that gender isn’t a spectrum. As if one needs to be a scientist to know the difference between a man and a woman. The NBC News host wasn’t done either. He then decided to stump for genital mutilation as a “cure” for gender dysmorphia.

Ramaswamy was much too polite and tolerant toward Todd when he told him he “respectfully disagree[d],” and explained that “Gender Dysphoria for most of our history all the way through the DSM-5 has been characterized as a mental health disorder.”

He then made the point that it’s cruel to indulge in the delusions of those with Gender Dysphoria and instead suggested they get help.

“Let’s be compassionate and get to the heart of that rather than playing this game as though we’re actually changing our medical understanding for the last hundred years,” Ramaswamy noted.

Todd interjected to advocate children getting their genitals mutilated or chemically castrated to prevent them from committing suicide. This is a common form of emotional blackmail that trans activists use to coerce their opponents into giving in.

“We’ve created a culture that teaches parents that they’re being bigoted or that they’re bad people if they don’t actually take those steps,” Ramaswamy explained.

Let me state what everyone agreed on until about five minutes ago. Gender is not a spectrum. Human beings are all unique, and while some men and a woman may be more masculine or feminine than others, they all exist within the confines of biological reality. How someone dresses, talks, or acts does not dictate their gender, and one can’t “identify” as a different gender any more than someone can identify as a different race or species.

That Todd, a supposed intellectual better with a national television audience, doesn’t understand that is insane enough. That he’d actually go on the offensive against people speaking the truth is even worse. Objective truth is under attack, and the absence of truth leads to chaos. Despite having some differences with his presidential campaign, I commend Ramaswamy for pushing back and being ready to counter Todd. The right can’t let this stuff go.



TOPICS: Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: chucktodd; kwikeemart; lgbt; ramaswamy; vivek
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To: dfwgator

Me too. This guy is a happy gentle and yet firm warrior who speaks the plain truth.


21 posted on 04/30/2023 9:41:47 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Wil)
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To: Veto!

If daisy is a girl, she was spayed.


22 posted on 04/30/2023 9:43:07 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Wil)
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To: SeekAndFind

schmuck todd has The Gay Face. Change my mind.


23 posted on 04/30/2023 9:43:31 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: Right Brother

I see him sitting in the Oval Office


24 posted on 04/30/2023 9:43:37 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Wil)
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To: Captainpaintball

Nope. You are spot on


25 posted on 04/30/2023 9:44:42 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Wil)
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To: SeekAndFind

Indian politics. I’d rather focus on American candidates.


26 posted on 04/30/2023 9:48:07 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Go Woke, Go Broke. Every Time Trump Says Something, I'm Closer to Anyone But Trump.)
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To: Reno89519
I’d rather focus on American candidates.

Vivek is American whether you like him or not.

27 posted on 04/30/2023 9:50:09 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Reno89519

RE: Indian politics. I’d rather focus on American candidates.

Vivek is American.


28 posted on 04/30/2023 9:52:30 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Americans can’t spell his name. How are they going to vote for him?


29 posted on 04/30/2023 9:53:53 PM PDT by TTFX
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To: TTFX

they are pre-printed ballots

you only have to spell write-ins


30 posted on 04/30/2023 10:33:46 PM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: SeekAndFind

I would choose him over DeSantis


31 posted on 04/30/2023 10:55:03 PM PDT by roving (👌⚓)
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To: SeekAndFind

Democrats need to fight on this hill. Now that the threats from the trannies is being met more and more people will start standing up to these degenerates.


32 posted on 05/01/2023 1:04:27 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: SeekAndFind

There are two genders PERIOD Everything else is a lifestyle.


33 posted on 05/01/2023 1:43:12 AM PDT by NTHockey (My rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: SeekAndFind

Some truths:

Gender and sex are the same thing.

Your gender or sex is determined by your chromosomes.

Your feelings are irrelevant.

You cannot change your gender or sex. For example, chopping your genitals off if you are a male does not make you a female. It makes you a mutilated male. The differences between the sexes go way beyond genitals. They are genetic and pervasive.

Saying any of the above is not “hateful”. Its reality. The sooner everybody learns to deal with it, the better things will be for them.

Those who cannot accept these basic facts are mentally ill.


34 posted on 05/01/2023 3:14:09 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: dfwgator

Honestly, Vivek is a smart and impressive guy. I’d like to see Trump appoint him to a cabinet position. He’s one to keep an eye on for the future.


35 posted on 05/01/2023 3:14:54 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: SeekAndFind

We need to MOCK these idiots, not DEBATE them!


36 posted on 05/01/2023 3:30:43 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: gas_dr
I like this guy more and more. He may earn my primary vote

In a Trumpless, DeSantisless world he would definitely be at the top of my list.

37 posted on 05/01/2023 3:37:37 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: TTFX

RE: Americans can’t spell his name

How hard is it to spell V-I-V-E-K ?


38 posted on 05/01/2023 3:50:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

.


39 posted on 05/01/2023 4:22:19 AM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: dfwgator

I have been on his parade float since he announced because I had read a good book of his a year ago and thought that the way he was going forward with his candidacy would reinforce all MAGA efforts.

He is attacking the vile Woke Culture and all associated Progressivism with his outstanding intellect and experience.

Vivek rhymes with “cake” or “bake” for those who don’t know him. Four more niche candidates like him constantly attacking the scum ball left and we have got a real debate going on.


40 posted on 05/01/2023 5:47:36 AM PDT by KC Burke (Diversity, Inclusion and Equity is not another way to spell GOD but it is a way to spell DIE.)
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