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Ukrainian soldiers admit Russia 'can't be defeated with West arms...' | Report
Hindustan Times ^ | 4/28/23 | Staff

Posted on 04/29/2023 7:20:32 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...

A shocking admission by Ukrainian troops fighting Russia on the ground has come up. Ukrainian troops on the frontline say that western arms may not be enough to defeat Russia, according to a report by the New York Times. The Ukrainian fighters also expressed their surprise at the amount of artillery, tanks, helicopters, and jets Russia has deployed on the battlefield. The admission comes at a time when Ukraine is already facing embarrassment after its much-hyped spring offensive was delayed.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: biden; neoconfail; proxywar; putin; russia; scandal; ukraine; zelensky
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To: Brian Griffin

I question the aircraft production figure. All the sources I see place their plane production around the 170k figure.


21 posted on 04/29/2023 8:07:23 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Its All Over Except ...
the recently leaked gov’t docs showed that Ukraine has lost up to 7 times as many soldiers as Russia has

Only fools who fall for every 4-Chan post or Russian propaganda posters repeat the contents of an obviously faked document. Which one are you?

22 posted on 04/29/2023 8:08:58 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Spok

There’s bullshit then more BS.

Sounds like the children need to be trained in the use of the state of the art western veapons


23 posted on 04/29/2023 8:23:34 AM PDT by himno hero (had'nff)
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To: freeandfreezing

You now made a claim the leaked Pentagon docs were fake, so back up your claim these recently leaked docs, that Tucker and every other conservative reported on are fake, or you are a fool.


24 posted on 04/29/2023 8:24:03 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Their job is not to defeat Russia, it is to die for GloboHomo and corrupt Western elites, damaging Russia as much as they can before they are put in the ground. Cannon fodder.


25 posted on 04/29/2023 8:28:00 AM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I must be over the target.

Then, you'll be soon shot down.

Ask your fellow Russians how that feels.
26 posted on 04/29/2023 8:32:33 AM PDT by adorno
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To: adorno

Rachel Maddow, I’d that you?

Rachel Maddow: All Russia. All The Time.

https://youtu.be/kgBxfHdb4OU7

Anti-neocon Jimmy Dore takes on the Russia, Russia, Russia nonsense coming from neoliberal libtards (brothers/sisters to neocons).


27 posted on 04/29/2023 9:08:08 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Its All Over Except ...
Rachel Maddow, I’d that you?

That's not gonna work.

Trying to redirect is not going to save you. You're doing the same as the democrats do, where they are always accusing others of what they do. I'm onto you.
28 posted on 04/29/2023 9:13:34 AM PDT by adorno
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To: Its All Over Except ...

I read all the news about the Ukrainian-Russia War as propaganda.


29 posted on 04/29/2023 9:20:15 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (It's science and therefore cannot be questioned!)
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To: Its All Over Except ...
"With or without HT the NYT reported what they did..."

Not really -> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/22/us/politics/ukraine-western-weapons-supplies.html

"Ukraine has lost up to 7 times as many soldiers as Russia has"

So all of their soldiers were killed at least twice and you dudes still can't take Ukraine's 59th largest city.

"Ukraine is losing"

Meanwhile in Russia.


30 posted on 04/29/2023 9:30:34 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Unfortunately for Ukraine, Russia will win the war of attrition.
Russian solders may not be as well trained as Ukraine solders
but Russian can afford to throw as many warm bodies as it takes.


31 posted on 04/29/2023 9:47:58 AM PDT by tennmountainman ( Less Lindell CONS, More AZ Style Audits)
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To: Its All Over Except ...

“””the recently leaked gov’t docs showed that Ukraine has lost up to 7 times as many soldiers as Russia has”””

The leaked documents did not say that, the later altered versions that were put out by Russian sites said that.

There is the original leaked document that gives the figures favoring Ukraine and then there was an obviously altered version that reversed the numbers to make Russia look good.

“A counterfeit version of the leaked casualty report that greatly exaggerates Ukrainian casualties and downplays Russian casualties has been circulated online by a pro-Kremlin social media personality who styles herself “Donbass Devushka.” “Donbass Devushka” is actually 37-year-old former U.S. Navy legal clerk Sarah Bils, who presently resides in Oak Harbor, Washington, near Naval Air Station Whidbey Island where she once served. A news exclusive and interview with Bils conducted by the Wall Street Journal includes this assessment of her social media posts pertaining to Russian and Ukrainian casualty numbers: “Some of the slides reposted on the Telegram account overseen by Ms. Bils had been altered from the otherwise identical photographs allegedly posted by Airman Teixeira on Discord—changed to inflate Ukrainian losses and play down Russian casualties. A subsequent post on the Donbass Devushka Telegram channel, on April 12, denied that the image had been doctored by the administrators.”


32 posted on 04/29/2023 1:25:54 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

Wrong. Tucker and several other conservatives commenting on the leaked docs did not put out Russian disinformation, unless you’re one of those Rachel Maddow types.

Rachel Maddow: All Russia. All The Time.

https://youtu.be/kgBxfHdb4OU7

Anti-neocon Jimmy Dore takes on the Russia, Russia, Russia nonsense coming from neoliberal libtards.


33 posted on 04/29/2023 1:29:40 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Its All Over Except ...
It isn't wrong, compare the released document with the obviously altered version that appeared later from the Russian propaganda sites like the New Jersey girl's.


34 posted on 04/29/2023 1:37:52 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Brian Griffin

1,476 *million* machine guns? That’s almost 50 times as many as the number of rifles they produced. Maybe it should read “1.476 million”.


35 posted on 04/29/2023 8:49:32 PM PDT by powerset
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