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JFK 2022 documents: CIA's James Angleton running a covert program to supply Israel with nuclear weapons behind President Kennedy's back
LinkedIn ^ | January 2 2023 | Geoff Cruickshank

Posted on 04/15/2023 8:22:46 AM PDT by euram

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To: faithhopecharity

Interesting post—a couple of comments.

First—Angleton was a hero to Israel. That is not my opinion, that is the official Israeli position:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1987/12/05/the-secret-ceremony/d8d30dab-fe95-4ba0-b52f-c50a04795b77/

Second—you are correct that the Israelis were receiving bits and pieces of nuclear technology from illicit US (and other sources) before JFK was president.

There is some evidence that Angleton helped them do this.

Btw, the Wikipedia article on the CIA director JFK appointed (after firing Allen Dulles) correctly notes how critical the Israel nuclear policy was to CIA operations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_A._McCone

Here is the relevant quote:

“McCone resigned from his position of DCI in April 1965, believing himself to be unappreciated by President Lyndon B. Johnson, who, he complained, would not read his reports, including on the need for full-fledged inspections of Israeli nuclear facilities.”

When there is a crime one question that must always be asked when trying to solve it is “who benefits”.

If JFK had remained president, been re-elected, then had Bobby as president for two more terms Israel may not have had the atom bomb for two more decades—or if they had gotten it the US might have prevented further development.


21 posted on 04/15/2023 12:08:10 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Glad2bnuts

I agree that Trump’s silence was because of his knowledge of Israeli involvement.

The US/Israeli alliance is not just geo-political.

Mossad has been doing the dirty for US intelligence for decades.

They know a lot of secrets of their own that the US does not want exposed.

This is the way the game is played at the highest levels.


22 posted on 04/15/2023 12:10:52 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: golux

You forgot the Jesuits and the Knights of Malta, not to mention the evil, secret and international Order of the Illuminati!


23 posted on 04/15/2023 12:13:43 PM PDT by Wallace T. ( )
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To: cgbg

Meh…

Israel nuclear tech came via France well before ‘63, that is very well known.


24 posted on 04/15/2023 12:16:03 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: Boogieman

Special operations and counterintelligence are two different roles.

Only if you assume that “counter intelligence” does not include putting out a hit on the identified “security risk”


25 posted on 04/15/2023 12:20:18 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (The rot of all principle begins with a single compromise.)
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To: jjotto

You should read Seymour Hirsh’s book on this topic:

https://www.amazon.com/Samson-Option-Israels-Nuclear-American/dp/0394570065

The story is very complex and there were multiple sources for the development of Israeli nuclear technology—they obtained it piece by piece.

The Washington Post article on Angleton also indicated that he was involved in getting Israel some nuclear components.

In addition JFK was trying to stop nuclear proliferation—including stopping ongoing French efforts to help Israel.

JFK was going to stop Israel getting the bomb—one way or the other.

Angleton had the exact opposite agenda.

The French were one player in this drama.


26 posted on 04/15/2023 12:23:59 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: jjotto

Did not know Abe Feinberg/Sonneborn Institute was/is a frenchman/French outfit (Finacing portion).Also, was the Appollo Project was operated from France? Finally, did not know Nixon and Ford were Presidents from France with all the guidence systems and such “shared”.

It was a group effort with the US and France. Not sure about the JFK stuff though.


27 posted on 04/15/2023 12:41:21 PM PDT by rollo tomasi
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To: rollo tomasi

Interesting info.


28 posted on 04/15/2023 12:43:39 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: AAABEST

Here’s an article about Trump commenting on the JFK files that haven’t been released:

https://yournews.com/2023/03/08/2530570/if-you-saw-what-i-saw-you-wouldnt-release-it/


29 posted on 04/15/2023 2:23:57 PM PDT by euram (allALL)
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To: cgbg

They had more then that already. Vie they own expertise.
I have no knowledge of what this fellow may have helped with, it may have some other defense item(s) or ?


30 posted on 04/15/2023 2:23:59 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Boogieman
They never got him, he was always theirs. The very first official visit or day of duty was to the CIA HQ on Jan 21, 2017 to kowtow to the CIA. The entire point of a Trump presidency is to destroy the idea of a outsider, nationalist or populist as president. He chose to not pardon the biggest enemies of the deep state which was Snowden and Assange. He chose to pardon druggies, rappers, and commute illegal immigrant meat packer bosses. He helped fund the deep state more than any other President via the nsa, fbi and cia.
31 posted on 04/15/2023 2:56:59 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: euram
Kennedy and the CIA were at each other's throats from the Bay of Pigs onward because he found out CIA had gone ahead with the plan, in spite of knowing to a certainty the invasion would fail without US air support, because they hoped the Cubans dead and dying on the beach would shame him into relenting and changing his mind.

Kennedy's distrust was so extreme he wouldn't believe any Intel coming back from Vietnam unless if came from Robert Strange McNamara. Which not only caused all Intel from Southeast Asia to be filtered through McNamara's judgement, it also put him in the catbird seat to implement his "flexible response" strategery.

And we know how well that worked out.

32 posted on 04/15/2023 3:55:45 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Glad2bnuts

Yet there was no bullet hole through the front of the windshield... so it would not only have to be “not flat”, it would have to be elevated some 10-15 feet in order for the shot to come from the front and above the windshield... which anyone can see is not that case.


33 posted on 04/15/2023 7:25:59 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ChessExpert

Are you sure?


34 posted on 04/15/2023 8:50:54 PM PDT by golux
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To: Theoria

If all you say is true, why isn’t he still in office?


35 posted on 04/16/2023 4:15:37 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Required for informed consent: "We have a new, experimental vaccine.")
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To: ChessExpert

In or out, he’s of use to them. Perfect controlled opposition.


36 posted on 04/16/2023 5:15:11 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

“Perfect controlled opposition.”

I did not believe that originally but I am coming around to your view.

The Deep State has been cranking at full tilt—and speeches and rallies are not going to stop them.

The Republicans lack the courage to take them on—and will gladly take their money and support.


37 posted on 04/16/2023 5:49:14 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Theoria

“They never got him, he was always theirs.”

I don’t buy it. If he was always their man, then the whole intelligence community wouldn’t have been trying to get rid of him, from even before he took the oath of office.


38 posted on 04/16/2023 7:24:33 AM PDT by Boogieman
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