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On Point: Time For The Taiwan Porcupine To Bristle
Strategy Page ^ | 8 Mar 2023 | Austin Bay

Posted on 03/08/2023 1:43:28 PM PST by Rummyfan

On March 1, the U.S. tentatively approved the sale $600 million in hi-tech weapons to Taiwan for its U.S.-made F-16 aircraft.

The weapons sale would impress anyone familiar with 21st century air to air combat. Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles. AGM-88B High Speed Anti-Radiation (HARM) missiles to destroy communist Chinese land-based radars guiding attacking Peoples Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) jets.

Attacking is that last sentence’s critical word. On March 1, 19 PLAAF aircraft violated Taiwan’s air defense identification zone (ADIZ). They were bluffing attacks.

Land radars would play key roles in a communist Chinese assault on the island. Taiwan’s American-supplied HARM missiles would have to hit targets on mainland China.

The arc is clear. Beijing’s military aircraft regularly and provocatively crosses the Taiwan Strait median line (the middle of the 110-mile wide strait). Communist China has become more belligerent and in the not so distant future will attack Taiwan and provoke a major war in the western Pacific.

Aircraft and missiles alone won’t defeat a CCP invasion. Stopping Beijing will require a bitter ground battle against invading ground forces – amphibious and airborne.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Politics; Society
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What a sausage factory it would be. A true bloodbath.
1 posted on 03/08/2023 1:43:28 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

China may have a billion people, but how many of them are willing to drown in the Taiwan Strait over this?


2 posted on 03/08/2023 1:48:45 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Rummyfan

No one ever mentions what the Taiwanese think. They may not fully agree with of all this US media and neocon arm-chair strategery


3 posted on 03/08/2023 1:54:52 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Rummyfan

This is a way for China to reverse engineer our weapons.


4 posted on 03/08/2023 1:56:16 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Rummyfan

There will be no war. At least not between the US and China.

But the spending is a necessary distraction.

Bread and circuses continue.


5 posted on 03/08/2023 1:56:21 PM PST by datura (Eventually, the Lord and the Truth will win.)
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To: Boogieman

Answer: As many as it takes.

The big question though is WHY? Why is the ccp so anxious to take Taiwan? Somebody break that down for me. Is it merely the “principal” of the thing to them?

Seems more than a little bit insane to me.


6 posted on 03/08/2023 1:59:19 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance.)
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To: Sequoyah101

“The big question though is WHY? Why is the ccp so anxious to take Taiwan? Somebody break that down for me. Is it merely the “principal” of the thing to them?”

Partially. To really understand it, this goes back to the old dynasties of China. They had a longstanding belief, similar to the old European idea about the “divine right of kings”, called the “mandate of heaven”. For them, a good ruler, or dynasty (which translates nowadays as a good ruling party, which the CCP wants Chinese people to see them as) would manifest that they have this “mandate of heaven” to rule the country, by being successful at things like securing the borders, having bountiful harvests, etc. Basically succeeding with their domestic policies was how they proved that they were the ones properly chosen to rule, and not some other competing dynasty.

Well, the Taiwanese are essentially a competing dynasty to the CCP. And if the CCP can’t show that they have the “mandate of heaven”, then the Chinese people might be strongly tempted to revolt and turn to the Taiwanese as the ones who really have been chosen to rule. But if the CCP can eliminate that competing dynasty, then there is no alternative to turn to, and then the CCP doesn’t have to worry so much about proving they have the “mandate of heaven”.


9 posted on 03/08/2023 2:16:10 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Rummyfan

“Stopping Beijing will require a bitter ground battle against invading ground forces – amphibious and airborne”.

Not if the US and Japan intervene.

China would never get a man ashore.


10 posted on 03/08/2023 2:22:36 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Rummyfan

No doubt that we’re headed for Armageddon.


11 posted on 03/08/2023 2:26:51 PM PST by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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To: Boogieman

Allow Taiwanese to enlist in our military. Train them on systems specific to what Taiwan would need. Let them go back at any time deemed necessary. They can then choose between US or Taiwan citizenship when their enlistment is up.

We should have been doing this with Ukrainians all along. It would have set a big trap for the Russians. If only Pearl Harbor was prepared.


12 posted on 03/08/2023 2:28:07 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Boogieman

The Kumintong were our allies in WWII, often fighting against both the PLA and the Japanese. They were the ones who helped Doolittle and his men after they crashed in China after bombinh Tokyo, and this led to the horrors of Nanjing.

Taiwan is still the REAL China. The CCP cannot tolerate this.


13 posted on 03/08/2023 2:29:52 PM PST by datura (Eventually, the Lord and the Truth will win.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“Allow Taiwanese to enlist in our military.”

Well, I see one flaw with this plan. Even though Taiwan is (unofficially) our ally, they are not US. They still spy on us, and we spy on them. And China definitely has infiltrators and collaborators inside Taiwan, so China could be spying through them on us as well. So we might not want to make that easier for them.


14 posted on 03/08/2023 2:34:14 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

The CCP cannot allow any region of their domain to
practice unfettered capitalism and dispute communist rule.
Others might get ideas, others might try it, others might
succeed. One only need consider Hong Kong.


15 posted on 03/08/2023 2:40:01 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Boogieman

We only have 350 million but how many are willing to die for Taiwan, which we officially ambiguously recognize as part of China.


16 posted on 03/08/2023 2:42:00 PM PST by silverleaf (It’s not propaganda just because you disagree with it. )
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To: tet68

“others might succeed”

That’s what I think really bothers them, that Taiwan has been very successful with their limited resources, compared to China with her virtually unlimited resources. The old test of the “mandate of heaven” was that the ruler was successful. If Taiwan is more successful than the CCP, then Taiwan is the rightful ruler, under that kind of belief system, which still lingers in the Chinese psyche today.

And the flipside of the “mandate of heaven” is that, if a ruler has the mandate, then obeying them is your duty. But if they lose the mandate, then rebelling against them is seen as a righteous cause.


17 posted on 03/08/2023 2:55:17 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Rummyfan
Aircraft and missiles alone won’t defeat a CCP invasion. Stopping Beijing will require a bitter ground battle against invading ground forces – amphibious and airborne.

Wrong. You beat an island nation with a blockade. An air tight blockade and the Taiwanese give up in 4 months.

18 posted on 03/08/2023 2:57:03 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: HighSierra5

World War III or IV first

Then 7 years of ‘Peace and Security’

Then the real Armageddon

✝️🙏🛐


19 posted on 03/08/2023 3:03:45 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

From my experience with Taiwanese men they are milksops. There is a mandatory draft but the kids don’t even hold a weapon in training.


20 posted on 03/08/2023 3:07:02 PM PST by oldasrocks (quew)
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