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Well, there it is – NATO General Secretary Says Ukraine Will Definitely Become a NATO Member Once Conflict with Russia Concludes
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | February 28, 2023 | Sundance

Posted on 02/28/2023 6:54:07 PM PST by wildcard_redneck

After the western alliance previously swore that NATO would not put any member NATO state on the doorstep of Russia, a promise that was weak and viewed by many as false – ultimately influencing the decision by Russia, NATO General Secretary Jens Stoltenberg said today that Ukraine will be joining NATO as soon as the conflict is concluded.

Now, given that statement, why would Russia even fathom entering any type of peaceful resolution to the conflict. In essence, Stoltenberg has just turned the conflict in Ukraine into a zero-sum issue for Russia. The only way Russia can keep NATO away from its border is to win violently against Ukraine.

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To: CFW

Anything for globohomo.


41 posted on 02/28/2023 8:28:45 PM PST by Romulus
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To: SPDSHDW
Send biden’s transwarriors over there.

Milley-Vanilli will be on it like Sam Brinton on a red Tanzanian designer dress.


42 posted on 02/28/2023 8:33:28 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

43 posted on 02/28/2023 8:36:13 PM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - No CCCP 2.0)
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To: Widget Jr; wildcard_redneck
As I said:

Here's another FR armchair warrior vote for dead American kids - Widget Jr

Don't lump me in with your warpig kind, boy.

My grandkids will NEVER go to fight your wars.

44 posted on 02/28/2023 8:40:23 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Right Brother

45 posted on 02/28/2023 8:58:22 PM PST by D Rider ( )
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To: Brian Griffin

rubble <-> city liberated by Russia==

We will rebuild our cities and ukie POWs like germans before them will be the working hands on it.


46 posted on 02/28/2023 9:02:02 PM PST by nickfrost1
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To: Kazan

If you love Russia so much, why don’t you move there (assuming you are not typing these lines from Russia)?


47 posted on 02/28/2023 9:29:58 PM PST by MS60
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To: Brian Griffin

“Sanctions can at most have “very little” effect on most Russians.”

Not on Russian oligarchs who rule in that country.


48 posted on 02/28/2023 9:34:42 PM PST by MS60
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To: canuck_conservative

If Putin did not anticipate the Finns’ reaction, he’s denser than a depleted uranium slug.

I don’t think he’s that dense.

But that blows up the whole “fear of NATO” bit. Which is nonsense anyway, because NATO is simply not configured as an offensive force. A weak Ukraine would almost be more a liability to NATO than an asset.

Finland OTOH is a huge asset.


49 posted on 02/28/2023 10:37:52 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: mass55th

Well, since Ukraine won’t have much of a GDP for a while, that’s a minimal concern. (NATO guidelines say 2% of GDP to be spent on defense. The amount actually paid to “NATO” as a financial entity is much smaller.)

Troops rotated in for training and exercises should be more than enough of a tripwire. Some portion of reparations from Russia can be in the form of weapons, munitions, and gear for Ukie soldiers. (I love ironic solutions.)


50 posted on 02/28/2023 10:48:25 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: wildcard_redneck

NATO never has and never will have any interest in a major land invasion into Russia. It’d take them a decade at least just to build up and configure for such, while their defensive role would be considerably compromised.

This assumes you could even get all the significant Euro members on board to spend something around 4% of their GDP’s on NATO for that long.


51 posted on 02/28/2023 10:55:41 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Brian Griffin

“Most Russians” are not the key.

Russian gov’t revenues (see Jan. 2023 report) are.


52 posted on 02/28/2023 11:04:28 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: ansel12

I guess you missed the various times that President Trump said NATO countries weren’t paying their fair share. Like all elite memberships, it isn’t free. Each member state pays for its own armed forces, and covers the costs of deploying its forces. Who is going to pay for Ukraine if they end up in NATO?


53 posted on 02/28/2023 11:07:41 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: Paul R.
"I love ironic solutions."

I love ironic solutions/situations too. Like how Germany invaded Russia in WWII to take control of their oil fields, lost the war, and ended up being reliant on Russia long-term, for their energy needs.

54 posted on 02/28/2023 11:11:08 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: kiryandil
"Here's another FR armchair warrior vote for dead American kids..."

The crap these people are spewing about Russia today, is basically the same bullshit I heard when I was a kid in the 50's.

55 posted on 02/28/2023 11:17:33 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: wildcard_redneck

Gotta fan the flames of war. This is big reason why this conflict started in the first place. Nato bases equal nuclear missiles on Russia’s border.


56 posted on 03/01/2023 12:52:23 AM PST by Revel
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To: wildcard_redneck

When this present nazi vs Christian conflict ends, Ukraine will no longer exist. Hans Stoltenpoop is a wanker and an idiot.


57 posted on 03/01/2023 12:59:19 AM PST by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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To: wildcard_redneck

NATO NEVER promised not to expand.

that’s simply not true


58 posted on 03/01/2023 1:12:31 AM PST by Sunsong
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To: wildcard_redneck

“This is not going to end well for anyone.”

I remember the Neocon Supporters here INSISTING that Ukraine would never enter NATO.

Funny thing is that they may well be right in the end, but not for the reason they claimed.


59 posted on 03/01/2023 3:07:47 AM PST by BobL
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To: Widget Jr

“Maybe if Putin was not set on restarting the CCCP this would not happen.”

Link please.


60 posted on 03/01/2023 3:10:33 AM PST by BobL
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