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To: daniel1212

‘Its all related.’

except you’ve set up a false dichotomy, by linking God and theism with the happy group, and by implication atheism and disbelief with the errant group...

it’s perectly possible and likely that atheists can be married and emjoy the positive benefits of the first cohort, and likewise perfectly possible and likely that many in the second bunch, if asked, would identify as believers...


8 posted on 01/27/2023 11:12:48 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: IrishBrigade

Well, there are exceptions to any generalization.


10 posted on 01/27/2023 11:43:51 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: IrishBrigade
except you’ve set up a false dichotomy, by linking God and theism with the happy group, and by implication atheism and disbelief with the errant group... it’s perectly possible and likely that atheists can be married and emjoy the positive benefits of the first cohort, and likewise perfectly possible and likely that many in the second bunch, if asked, would identify as believers...

Yes, but the link btwn God and theism with morality overall and marriage with children, vs. atheism with liberal immorality and with no children, is warranted.

Bible itself teaches that God gave man an innate sense of morality of conscience, which is essentially correspondent with the basic law of God, (Romans 2:14) and thus atheists, like as any broad class of persons, can have a sense of morality.

In fact, that is partly why they dare to charge God with injustice as they ignorantly rail against Him. (As if He was not omniscient and omnipotent, knowing all the effects and effects of effects of all He does, and all actions/inactions of man and nature, not simply in this life but for eternity. And can and will ultimately make all work out for what is Good, with judicial justice as well as mercy and grace. Which is what ultimately determines what is evil and good.)

However, the problem is that conscience gets defiled, and apart from a sure supreme transcendent moral standard, then souls have nothing one can hold them to, even to interpret, and right and wrong is whatever each one, and each atheist, decides.

I have debated atheists who, in their reasoning, vehemently insisted Hitler was a Christian (since they decide what a Christian is), and some advocate the state removing children from creationist parents (just for beginners).

And consistent with man having a nature prone to sin, which to varying degrees rejects God’s moral laws, contrary to Christ, then not only can both good as well as terrible things be done under the premise of religious justification, but under atheism as well.

Yet atheists are overwhelmingly liberal in social views, though a relative few atheists oppose abortion, fornication, pornography, vulgarity, etc.

Relevant stats:

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Note also that religious persons and the more religious states overall tend to be the most charitable as regards a percentage of income.

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Footnotes

[1]
Religious Landscape Study
[2]
Statistics on U.S. Generosity

12 posted on 01/27/2023 11:52:03 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: IrishBrigade
... if asked, would identify as believers...

Aren't we ALL believers in 'something'?

22 posted on 01/27/2023 6:34:29 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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