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1 posted on 01/21/2023 10:57:10 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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2 posted on 01/21/2023 11:01:58 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? šŸ˜•)
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He will fix it.

When he’s back in office, I’ll be tired of winning again.


3 posted on 01/21/2023 11:06:29 AM PST by xyz2
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Years ago the Tenn legislature sued, on behalf of their constituents, the Soetero Administration over having to cover Medicare/Medicaid payments to the refugees that were settled in the state by Soetero. Suit was that since the refugees were being forced on them, the Tenn taxpayers shouldn’t also be forced to pay the bills. The Reds should.

The Tenn legislature had to hire outside counsel to represent it and that was used against them.

Eventually the case was tossed. The judge said that since neither the Governor, nor the Tenn AG, participated in the suit, the legislature had no STANDING. Hard to imagine that the elected representatives closest to the people had no standing.

Right now Florida is suing to force the Biden administration to enforce immigration law, as it’s required to do. I’m assuming it’s in response to the recent boat people showing up on Floridas shores.

How wonderful would it be if EVERY state signed onto the Rlorida suit and that same group also picked up the baton from the Tennessee lawsuit and refiled it?

All of that leads to me asking, how great it would be to get all these illegals off Medicaid/Medicare, SSI, and any other entitlement that is helping bleed these programs?


6 posted on 01/21/2023 11:20:52 AM PST by qaz123
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Old article but why were they getting them anyway?

https://www.cbpp.org/research/thousands-of-poor-refugees-face-loss-of-ssi-benefits


7 posted on 01/21/2023 11:23:26 AM PST by qaz123
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In short - Trump suggests that if we can considerably grow the economy the additional tax revenues from a higher growth economy can cover the IOUs owed to the social security fund.

I would vote for that solution if it was written into law that all federal income tax revenue exceeding budgeted/expected income tax revnue MUST be dedicated to paying off “federal debt” beginning with the IOUs held by social security to the extent covering those IOUs is needed for covering benefit paymemnts. Unless such an economic growth solution is made into law, it is no guarantee it is a long term, long running solution.


8 posted on 01/21/2023 11:24:37 AM PST by Wuli
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So, Trump just wants us to allow all these programs to remain uncut, running up our deficit, just as he did while President, until, he hopes, he’s elected again. Then he finally promises to do something, if, he were to somehow win.

Forget it. Sounds like Cloward-Piven in action actually. A lot of these programs are likely ripe for some cuts, since they’ve already been hiding behind “social security” for decades.

Social Security Programs in the United States

https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/progdesc/sspus/index.html

Social Insurance Programs
Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance (OASDI)
Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance
Unemployment Insurance
Workers’ Compensation
Temporary Disability Insurance
Health Insurance and Health Services
Medicare
Medicaid
Programs for Specific Groups
Veterans’ Benefits
Government Employee Retirement Systems
Railroad Retirement
Assistance Programs
Supplemental Security Income
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families
Food and Nutrition Assistance
Housing Assistance
Low-Income Home Energy Assistance
General Assistance


11 posted on 01/21/2023 11:46:34 AM PST by Golden Eagle (The LGBT indoctrination agenda is designed to outlaw the Bible, and anyone who follows it.)
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Easiest fix in the world

Take all non-citizens off

IF one is accepted into the country and if mom and dad are accepted too they can get on ss.

Cut that out.

End SSDI

End all government retirement plans. Roll them into SSS.

Voila, all better.


16 posted on 01/21/2023 12:25:53 PM PST by Chickensoup (Genocide is here. Leftist extremists are spearhheading the Genocide against conservatives. )
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I think he has a rally tonight.

I’m watching Diamond’s funeral on RSBN now, and he’s supposed to speak.


19 posted on 01/21/2023 12:40:46 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Stupid is supposed to hurt.)
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Here’s a path to a solution. I think it has to look something like this, because simply cutting benefits in the short run is too draconian:

Pick the right actuarial age, maybe it’s 45, maybe it’s 50. That part I leave to the actuaries. Offer the individuals over that actuarially calculated age to continue benefits as before for those over that age.

For those younger (mandatory) than this, and for those older who opt for this, provide a one-time buyout into their private account. Again, the exact amount of the buyout I leave to the actuaries. The investment vehicles in the private accounts would be similar to the ā€œTarget 20xxā€ accounts that many investment houses offer today. But from that point on, individuals are on their own. The government does not get to, in any way, shape, or form, get to vote on any corporate issues. Hard wall between government and corporations.

This is all very high level, and some more extreme cases will fall through the cracks. Yes, there will be pain. Hopefully, families and charities can ease that pain. But properly done, it will avoid the coming certain disaster that will hit all of us.

Similar programs to be created for Medicare.

Every year that passes by the unfunded future liabilities will shrink as people die off. Eventually, 40 or 50 years later, the unfunded liabilities will be zero.


20 posted on 01/21/2023 12:47:29 PM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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The problem isn't so much the need for an expanding economy...which we do need....but the continual increase in benefits now paid under OASDI.

Neither party shows any inclination to stop adding benefits and expanding who is eligible for benefits.

What should happen...but won't...is the following:

benefits only for US citizens.

a complete review of the disability rolls. I bet the number could be trimmed by about 25% if not more.

increase the number of hours worked required to be eligible for OASDI

21 posted on 01/21/2023 12:48:14 PM PST by ealgeone
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They’re not going to touch SocSec because AARP is the largest lobbying organization in the world. But they’ll TALK about it so they can say they PROTECTED it.


23 posted on 01/21/2023 12:55:33 PM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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