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Trump’s instincts on social security and Medicare are better than almost every other Republican
Ryan James Girdusky ^ | 1/20/23 | Ryan James Girdusky

Posted on 01/20/2023 6:39:22 PM PST by 6thavenue

Trump’s instincts on social security and Medicare are better than almost every other Republican.

Going after these programs is suicide and hurts Republican voters that are working-class and on fixed incomes the most.

See: politico.com Trump to GOP: Don’t touch Medicare or Social Security in debt ceiling fight

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To: devere

I see I posted before I saw your replt. Still don’t think it makes a difference. the groceries are just a benefit of your Advantage plan being offered by the company you signed up with and I don’t think have anything to do with Medicare Part A or B.


21 posted on 01/20/2023 7:48:20 PM PST by sunny bonobo
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To: devere

I see I posted in between your second response. I guess I’m wrong.


22 posted on 01/20/2023 7:49:55 PM PST by sunny bonobo
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To: Jeff Chandler

“plan buyers are actually paying for those groceries, in higher premiums, reduced benefits, restrictions on service providers, etc.”

I do pay the monthly medicare part B premium, and that’s all. I pay $0 a month to the insurance company, and $0 to see my GP and $20 to see almost any specialist. If I get an annual checkup, which I always do, I get a $75 reward; I also get free eyeglasses, 3 free dental cleanings a year, and money to join the local gym or buy exercise equipment if I want to. So my honest political opinion is that there is some room to trim medicare expenses.


23 posted on 01/20/2023 8:01:26 PM PST by devere
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To: devere

What is your monthly premium?


24 posted on 01/20/2023 8:04:26 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: devere

The “wealthy” people contributed more than their share over their whole working life. Now you are OK taking it away. The harder working younger people are now paying more than their share for healthcare. Why not just go totally socialistic? See if the harder working people continue working.


25 posted on 01/20/2023 8:10:17 PM PST by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders.)
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To: 6thavenue

The aim should be that Medicare recipients should get what they need, cutting excessive payments for technical stuff such as drugs priced above European levels.

Hospitals need to be made more efficient.

The EMTALA abuse, funded via Medicare, has to be tapered off.

EMTALA hospital visits should have a $100 upfront payment requirement in 2024, $200 in 2025, etc. Don’t have $100? See the pawn shop by the ER entrance.


26 posted on 01/20/2023 8:11:44 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: devere
Doesn't sound like Medicare...more like an Advantage Plan in addition to your Medicare.

And that's all?? It's about $170 a month....about $2000 a year...and comes right out of your SS check. Who knew we would still be paying premiums after we retired? I was stunned.

27 posted on 01/20/2023 8:12:12 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: alternatives?

The wealthy do pay more, but the SS tax is capped.


28 posted on 01/20/2023 8:14:39 PM PST by Fuzz (. )
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To: sunny bonobo
I do not have an Advantage plan. I have Medicare A & B My supplemental plan is a traditional Blue Cross/Blue Shield high deductible plan.

For every doctor visit, specialist visit, lab test, imaging test I pay a deductible to the physician (after Medicare has paid whatever they allow). I do not get any groceries. I am a COPD patient, who also sees a Cardiologist and Endocrinologist. All doctors and labs, including my primary are paid partly by me. This year my deductible is $2700 so the Blues do not pay anything until I have reached that limit. Again, no groceries, no perks.

29 posted on 01/20/2023 8:15:01 PM PST by Abby4116
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To: Fuzz

That is true, but the wealthy still pay in much more over their lifetime than they receive. The lower income people make out like bandits relative to their contributions.


30 posted on 01/20/2023 8:17:19 PM PST by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders.)
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To: alternatives?

Socialism is poison. The free market works wonders. In Singapore everyone pays cash from their health savings plans for medical services so they care how much they spend. Singapore spends less than 4% of GNP for medical care, while the USA spends over 17%. I wish I knew how to get from where we are to where they are.


31 posted on 01/20/2023 8:19:13 PM PST by devere
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To: Sacajaweau

I would like to see Medicare Part B drugs moved to Medicare Part D.

When Medicare Part B premiums get too high, people won’t take out Medicare Part B at age 65.

I was debating whether to take Medicare Part B come October, but my uncle left me enough money to pay for it.


32 posted on 01/20/2023 8:19:29 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Sacajaweau
I have the $170 or so deducted from my Social Security check and I also pay $68 a month to CareFirst for my supplemental (listed in previous message).

I looked into an Advantage plan when offered this autumn and from what I remember I could only take one (geographic area) and chose not to do so. The one adavantage to the traditional plans that I have is I am not locked into in-plan physicians/facilities.

33 posted on 01/20/2023 8:24:33 PM PST by Abby4116
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To: 6thavenue

The GOPe doesn’t need to even pass legislation to cut social security benefits, they just need to mention that they’re going to, and the damage is done.

This will happen in the weeks before the 2024 election if it looks like Trump is winning and/or a MAGA majority will gain control of Congress.

Cocaine Mitch and his butt boy Linseed will see to it.


34 posted on 01/20/2023 8:28:21 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Sacajaweau

Congress has set payment priorities by law, which Yellen must obey.

However, the Treasury will be besieged by debt holders with court orders and SS payments may not go out.

Simple bills trading debt limit increases for Republican goals are the way to go in my opinion.

Don’t put the nation’s future in one basket bill that Biden may veto.

Make Joe and Chuck understand that they are going to get a lot of small House bills that they will have a hard time refusing to OK.


35 posted on 01/20/2023 8:28:25 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin
When Medicare Part B premiums get too high, people won’t take out Medicare Part B at age 65.

Part B is what covered doctors, outpatient services, etc. It does not cover drugs (that is Part D). Part A is only hospital insurance. I cannot see people refusing Part B since that is what pays most of the healthcare costs.

36 posted on 01/20/2023 8:31:44 PM PST by Abby4116
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To: Abby4116

And if you go on an advantage plan you are no longer on traditional medicare at all. If after a period of year or more you want to have Medicare again you have to get reaccepted back into the program and you have to jump through hoops to do it.


37 posted on 01/20/2023 8:32:32 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: devere
If you're worried about the rich, raise the caps for those still working.

If you're rich and feel guilty, donate your SS to those less fortunate. Maybe pay premiums for supplemental Medicare for those that have less. Many ways to help others.

38 posted on 01/20/2023 8:34:25 PM PST by D Rider ( )
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Thank you for telling me this. I was never big on the HMO concept (which is what I consider the Advantage plans) so I will gladly stick with what I have.


39 posted on 01/20/2023 8:35:37 PM PST by Abby4116
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To: Brian Griffin

Part B does not pay for any drugs, only a Part D plan does.


40 posted on 01/20/2023 8:35:40 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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