Posted on 01/17/2023 8:36:27 AM PST by Kazan
America’s infatuation with Ukraine and Zelensky (the Cocaine Comedian) is starting to wane, but most politicians and the public continue to believe the lie that Ukraine is an innocent country being bludgeoned by a communist Russia ruled by a dictator. Oh yeah. Don’t forget. Russia is suffering massive military and economic losses and just can’t live without U.S. investment and Europe’s technology. It is all nonsense, but if you are living in the United States and try to have a reasoned discussion with the fan boys and girls cheering for Ukraine, you would find more success talking to a brick wall.
But cracks are starting to show. One of my brilliant readers sent me the link to Michael Brendan Dougherty‘s latest in the National Review (a conservative icon in the magazine world), What Have We Bargained for in Ukraine? I encourage you to read the entire piece. More importantly, read the comments. That will give you some insight into the insanity that still reigns with regards to sending billions of dollars in money and materiel to Ukraine.
Here are the salient portions of the piece:
My friend and colleague Matthew Continetti writes that “securing America’s position and freedom’s future without direct intervention and for a rounding error in the federal budget is a strategic bargain. Ukraine needs more, not less, U.S. aid, and it needs it now.” In Commentary in November, Noah Rothman wrote that “Kyiv’s victories are our victories, too, insofar as they advance a core American national interest: preserving the stable European covenant that has blessed Western powers with the longest, most durable peace on the Continent in the modern age.”
This view holds that for pennies on the dollar, the U.S. has been able to preserve a democracy threatened by an authoritarian regime, cripple a rival military, strengthen the NATO alliance, prevent Vladimir Putin from an inevitable invasion of NATO territory, and scare off Xi Jinping from ever messing with Taiwan. . . .
Except, none of this is quite true. Crippling a rival military is only worthwhile when you have a strategic reason for doing so, and we conspicuously lack one. The NATO alliance’s duties have been radically expanded with no radical expansion in the share of the alliance’s burdens shouldered by Europe. Ukraine’s ultra-nationalist project is at odds with the democratic and liberal-internationalist values that are used to sell the conflict abroad. The conflict’s financial and moral costs to the U.S. have been growing for nearly a decade, and taking on Ukraine as a permanent dependent will grow them even more. The arc of the conflict is just as likely to encourage as to discourage Xi in his pursuit of Taiwan, given the ways in which our enmeshment in Europe will deplete our attention, resources, and will to be the world’s cop. And finally, no conflict in this blood-stained area of the globe is a mom-and-pop bingo game in which you can cash out your modest investments at any time; Vladimir Putin and Russia have a say in how this ends.
There you have it. A prominent conservative writer who was a strong supporter of Ukraine (and still insists that Putin is some sort of Darth Vader who enjoys borscht) is conceding that America’s strategy is based on a lie.
Over at Neo-Con central — i.e., the Institute for the Study of War — the stenographers masquerading as analysts grudgingly concede that Russia captured Soledar, but then proceeds to focus on their own fantastical speculation that there is political strife in Russia surrounding the Wagner Group’s success in the battle for Soledar. They write nothing about the strategic significance of the fall of Soledar, nothing about the growing Russian pressure on Bakhmut to the south of Soledar and nothing about Ukraine’s catastrophic casualties. It is genuinely bizarre.
It has all the disenchanting aspects of the great scamdemic.
The “reasoned discussion with the fan boys and girls cheering for Ukraine” should start in 3, 2, 1...
So says rando blogger Larry Johnson...LOL!
The American people are incredibly stupid if they believe Russia is a communist country. Russia stopped being communist with the dissolution of the Soviet Union. It has since reverted to its original roots as a Christian Eastern Orthodox nation.
As long as the US Deep State can run this war with no Americans getting killed (well, none they have to admit to anyway) average Americans won’t care.
Another $135 billion for the Military Industrial Complex? Again, its a rounding error for our ever-growing debt pile.
They’ve got time. Russia’s got time. So Ukraine will be absolutely obliterated in the process
Its why I am certain that Ukraine’s casualties will easily go over 1 million
Poland is next in the NATO war queue, and coming to you from Belarus!
The Camptown ladies sing this song, DODA, DODA
The Camptown racetrack's five miles long
Oh, de DODA day
They get paid to post. They haven’t posted for a long time and only post about Ukraine.
I have thought this was a terrible idea since we started it in 2014.
When my two voting age children challenged me in November 2016 about my upcoming vote for Donald Trump, I told them it was a chance to avoid nuclear war with Russia.
Things get worse and worse. Hopefully, capitulation of the Zelensky regime will happen before interdiction of US supplies to Ukraine becomes necessary.
Wait until Germany switches sides. What price Königsberg?
True, but I think this fellow is a Libertarian so he deliberately makes no mention of the true massive ends means disconnect in Ukeland. Our southern border is vanishing and the very thing the Constitution pledges that the US government will defend the states against attack and invasion is being considered a joke by both so called parties. So the eastern border of Ukeland is a vital national interest while the southern border of the US is unimportant and those who are concerned are un-American racists.
Ruled by a thug. Run like a mafia territory.
Not that I think we have any legitimate business in Ukraine. The criminals in DC sure have illegitimate business there.
Wouldn’t that be something!
We're the (neo) Marxists now. Promoting our empire abroad, and the political-security state at home, while we promote the ideology of leftist globalism, open borders, post-modernism, sexual liberation, while launching revolution in small countries all around the globe.
What's old is new again.
Which is the one thing the traitors within our gates cannot tolerate.
Why are all these supposed “great thinkers” so slow on the uptake?
Did you expect them to go from being Communist to Switzerland overnight?
Let the Europeans fix it.
They are right there.
De Camptown ladies . . .
Why would that put an end to anything? The rocket is launched, the die are cast, choose your metaphor - the USA/NATO are at war with Russia. There will be another front. You can bank on it.
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